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Hopefully THIS will solve my tuning issues

Discussion in 'Guitars in General' started by ColdFrixion, Jul 10, 2020.

  1. ColdFrixion

    ColdFrixion Member

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    I already own a String Butler, and while it's really helped a LOT, it hasn't completely solved the LP tuning issues. Well, I spent the cash and just got this in the mail today. Between this and the String Butler, I fully expect the tuning to be rock solid. I'll let you know.

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    Tommy Biggs Silver Supporting Member

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    You really stretch those strings??
     
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    I apologize but you have got to be kidding me.
     
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  5. ColdFrixion

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    Of course. It's one of the first things I do.
     
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  6. ColdFrixion

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    Why? The name sounds ridiculous, but if it works, I couldn't care less what they call it.
     
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    Don't be.
     
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    Cause it's crazy to need a string butler.... AND this hideous chunk of cast metal just to keep a guitar in tune. Something in this scenario is broke. :)
     
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    How old is the LP? Is the nut properly cut?
     
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    LP's are notorious for tuning issues, which is in part due to the tuning pegs not being in alignment with the strings as they pass through the nut, which is what the String Butler rectifies. Don't get me wrong, by and large it does stay in tune, but I'm looking for rock solid tuning stability.
     
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  11. ColdFrixion

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    The nut has been properly cut and lubed. The break angle of the strings was a large part of the battle, in my opinion. The String Butler took the tuning stability from about 50% to approximately 90%.
     
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    This is crazy. I’ve had no tuning issues with any LP.

    - Big Bends Sauce in bridge saddles and nut slots
    - restring using Martin’s 3-tuner-per-side method (see Erlewine’s book)
    - stretch new strings
     
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  13. Jahn

    Jahn Listens to Johnny Marr, plays like John Denver Supporting Member

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    But doesn't this only deal with issues behind the nut? If the problem is the nut itself, you may still get binding at the nut itself and if it catches there, you'll still have tuning issues - especially with something like a floating bridge or if you like bending a lot or really pound those rhythm chords.
     
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    Well, that's completely sensible reasoning, assuming there's an issue with the nut. If the theory behind why and how the Guitar NB works is true, it renders most nut issues fairly irrelevant.
     
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    Weird.

    I have a 2018 Les Paul Tribute which is a cheap Gibson and the tuning is really stable. Factory nut and tuners. I've got strings that are a couple months old now and just stretched them and tuned up and bent the hell out of all the strings and everything's still in tune. The G is a little touchy as it can shoot past the note easily while tuning up, but aside from that no issues.
     
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    I’ve been stringing my guitars exactly like this for decades. From the string bend, to the stretching (lots and lots), to the lube. Works great.
     
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    Interesting concept. Looks like a good solution, especially for guitars with a trem.

    but I am surprised you are having so many issues with an LP.
     
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    I've been using my current strings for several months and the tuning is pretty stable for the most part, I assume because they're fully stretched and everything's settled. But new strings are a bit of a pain in the ass for the first month or so in my case.
     
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    It's not notorious. And they are not even close to the only guitars with non-straight pull head stocks...and certainly not the worst.

    I am sorry you're having so much trouble but I've got a wall full of LPs hanging right behind me and not a single one has any tuning issues. I can play a full 45 minute set and not touch the tuning pegs once the whole time on any one of them. Something else is going on there or being overlooked. has to be.

     
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    Look on YouTube and search forums. Plenty, and I mean plenty, of people have tuning issues with LP's. If you're not, great, but it's hardly uncommon.
     
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