How are the RP500 Dirt Box Simulations?

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  1. S.A.M.

    S.A.M. Member

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    I've got a Rp500 and am wondering how the dirt/od simualtions are compared to the real thing. I've never really used OD boxes before. I'm thinking of pickng up a plexi style amp and am wondering if the rp500 OD sims will be adequate.
     
  2. voorhiessa

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    Man, I think they're fantastic. I originally bought the RP500 to use for mods and delays, etc. (and using external pedals for dirt), but I love the dirt models so much, thats all I use it for! I dont use a lot, mainly just the TS, 808, Rat, and Redline.
     
  3. atson67

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    The rat (rodent) and the tubescreamers are really close, tone - and dynamic- wise. The OCD sounds horrible though. I am not a big fan of this pedal anyway , but they did not nail it at all.
    Overall, for live use the quality of the drives is more than decent.
    Way better than the XT/X3 i had before in my opinion.
     
  4. buddaman71

    buddaman71 Student of Life Silver Supporting Member

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    Within 2 weeks of purchasing my GSP1101, which the RP500 is based upon, I sold all of my pedals and have been extremely happy gigging and recording with it ever since.
    (That was almost 2 years ago...)

    PS: I had a great boost, a Barber Tone Press, 2 Barber Direct Drives and a BB Preamp.(ALL excellent pedals.)
     
  5. atson67

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    @buddaman:

    how do you monitor your sound on stage. do you play through your amps or get a monitor mix through the wedges ?
    I am asking because i got a gig on thursday and think of just taking my rp1000. (have it for a week now). we are going to have fully equipped pa/monitor company.

    Thanks a lot - Alex
     
  6. buddaman71

    buddaman71 Student of Life Silver Supporting Member

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    On some low-volume gigs (casinos, small bars, etc.) I have run directly to a pair of small JBL Eon 510 powered stage monitors and then just passed the signal on to the PA.
    Normally though, I use the GSP1101 1/4" outs (no speaker sims) to a stereo tube power amp to a stereo 412 cab onstage.

    http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30499481&id=1025921344

    I use the excellent XLR outs (with speaker sims) direct to the PA in lieu of mic'ing the cab.

    Hope that helps.

    Jason

    PS: Here's some live unedited videos of my GSP1101 direct to the PA and then direct to the video feed:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yikXpJFWPdw
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9TAOoBJ5h4&feature=related
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXpfKqZ7dwk
     
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  7. voorhiessa

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    I go through the PA and use a monitor. It's so sweet to just show up with the unit and guitar, plug in 2 cables (guitar input and XRL out) and you're done.
     
  8. atson67

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    Thanks guys for your responses.

    I thought I could get around lugging around any amps or cabinets, since I do that with my "analog rig" (Bassman head or AC30 w/ one or two 1x12 cab(s) and pedalbord). Like voorhiessa said it is tempting to grab the RP1000 and your guitar and go to work.
    All you need though is a real good monitor guy !
    @buddaman: really dig your band and guitarplaying ! thanks for sharing your knowledge about the GSP/RP series.

    Alex
     
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  9. Will Chen

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    The RPX55/500/1000 OD models are very close in most cases. As previously mentioned, the TS9/808, Rat, and Big Muff are very,very realistic. That being said, the RP series is a little bit finicky about the amp receiving the signal. I've found running these boxs into the front end of some rigs it seems the harmonics from the processor seem to clash with the amp resulting in a very harsh and brittle high end. Of course, they pair extremely well with other amps so it's largely due to the amp you're using. Of course, if you're using all the modeling and effects from the RP into a full range system you won't experience this issue.
     
  10. voorhiessa

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    At home I use an amp. It's a cheapo Samick, but very clean and kinda flat (like the JC120)..so it takes the RP500 pretty well. I imagine it would be hard with a tube amp.

    Also, a lot of people use the 'mixer' output all the time, even when running to an amp. I do, and think it's much better.
     
  11. Gas-man

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    I like the dirt in the RP1000 so far.

    The big test will come tonight. I am going direct for the first time. My Victoria will be waiting in the wings if the direct route doesn't work after the first set, but I've been pretty impressed with the modeling and effects so far.

    The Matchless model with a tele sounds like Keef Urban in a box.
     
  12. Bikedude

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    I never could warm up to the 500, but my M9 is great, and the OD's sound mobetta to me.
     
  13. atson67

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    I think the RP 1000 is a great modeler for recording. It sounds great through my studio monitors. You can connect your favourite OD pedals and they will sound equally good.

    Live as a standalone device (this was my plan to use it) I was not so impressed. What I heard through my monitor wedges, was really thin and harsh. Not much fun to play. Had a real classy PA system by the way. Wish I could say different.

    If you play it through your own amps/cabs, results may be great, but that's just not the way I intended to use the RP.

    Great unit all in all.
    Alex
     
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    The Big Muff sim on my RP355 (same as on the RP500) is about 85% convincing when compared to my D*A*M Ram Head. It sounds fantastic on the low notes, not as great on the high notes. On the whole it's good enough that I'm going to take a stab at going guitar->RP355->PE60 as my entire rig.
     
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    I started using the RP500 into a clean tube amp as a virtual pedalboard. Worked great this way, but I have started to make the switch to an ampless setup. It's great how the pedals interact with the amp models in a realistic way. They really did a great job with this series.

    dk
     
  16. Pingafuego

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    I bought a RP 155, and I´m having lots of fun! I was working on a patch using the Marshall Master Volume sim, and it sound so good! I never got those marshall sounds using analog pedals.

    I plug it into the input of my Fender Hot Rod Deluxe (40 w tube amp).

    I set the mixer/amp switch to amp, and use the amp sims with cab simulation turned on. I know there are some folks suggesting turning off the amp cab sim, but I like how they sound through the tube amp!

    Sorry for my english, I live in Brazil and my native language is portuguese!

    Thanks for all your help here in this forum, I am really enjoying reading!
     
  17. Stringrazor

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    Late to this party I know, but I just picked up a used RP500 from another TGP member. I indended to use it as a multi-fx only and was even planning to use a DC Womanizer for OD in front of it because I'd never heard digital OD that I liked...until now. I've yet to play it at gig volume but the TS OD and some of the other non-metal dirt settings sound great with amp/cab modelling off into my vintage SFDR. The models still sound fizzy to me but I haven't really given them a fair shake through a full range system. As a multi-fx device though, this thing rocks!
     
  18. buddaman71

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    FWIW: I highly recommend using cab sim ALTROCK412 as a master sim. I critically listened to all cab sims and repeatedly chose it as the best, smoothest sounding sim in blind listening tests. Zero fizz except on some of the amp models KNOWN for a lil fizz, like the Triple Recto.

    I gig 3-4 nights a week with my GSP1101 (I also have the RP1000) and get consistently better live FOH tone than I ever have over 20 years of mic'ing $$$$$$$$ tube rigs.
     
  19. mrspeed

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    I checked out some of your youtube clips. Great tones. What's your typical pedal/amp models?
     
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    I have a 1972 Dual Showman Reverb (Twin in head form. First year of the master volume ones but without the pull boosts and no UL tranny) that I run on top of an old 1970s Marshall 4x12.
    The RP1000s TS,808, and TS/modified are FANTASTIC through that rig.
    To me it's like a Far better Plexi than the Plexis of that era. It is SOOO Big and crunchy sounding with zero harshness and just drips with harmonic content. It has that chest compressing thump yet sweet highs too.
    I wish I could cop that sound with the Twin Reverb sim in the RP itself but not even close so far.
     

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