How did Mutt Lange do it, and the role of a producer?

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    Yeah, there's that too....
     
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    Ok, since you all know more about Shania than I, can you tell me what Larry the cable guy said he would do with her poo because she is so 'fine' in his Christmas album many years ago?
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    ….. in a lounge

    I get why these records are overproduced - they sound nice - but rock should be raw.

    take iggy's mix of raw power eg :D
     
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    In my OP I referenced the band speaking of things Mutt told them. Rick Allen specifically said Mutt told him, this will be played in stadiums not jazz bars meaning it does not need to be technical playing just chant worthy back beats I guess.
     
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    Who has two thumbs and thinks Rick Allen jokes are hilarious?
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    I kinda hate myself for chuckling at that.
     
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    I’m pretty sure I can guess.
     
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    Pete and Steve must have been great drinking buddies; perhaps the other guys too.
     
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    This clip offers some insight into the secret of his genius:



    Apparently directing the singer to "go higher" on a single over-dub is the special sauce.
     
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    Interesting how little production work Ted Templeman had to do with Van Halen; listne to their early bootlegs, they were pretty much good to go from the get-go.
     
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    The role of that particular type of producer is to take the raw unpolished ideas that the band has and turn them into hits. I've watched as many documentaries on the subject as I can find. A lot of times there is basically musical theory involved, adding a bridge maybe modulating up a key at the end etc. A lot of it is finding the "hooks" and getting every instrument to support the song. There is definitely a pop song formula that can be traced back all the way to the Beatles and the Beach Boys. I imagine that Mutt knows his pop music inside and out.

    I've also worked with a producer in Austin. He got me to simplify my songs and lyrics because I had way too much going on. He also got the other guys in the band to quit overplaying and support the song. Keep it simple stupid, like they say.

    As far as the engineering, they had the best gear available. I'm sure whoever was the engineer knew their stuff. Also they had a huge budget and a lot of time, which is unheard of these days.
     
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    That's Mutt Lange singing???
     
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    I’m a big fan of the first three and envy you, and regret not seeing them in that era.
     
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    They were so so good...and my age...it blew me away and motivated me in a very good way.
     
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    is that why i hated everything past pyromania? it becomes clear to me now

    it's the izzy stradlin thing, after he left the songs became unlistenable.
    OMG i forgot about this one! it's the same godd**n song, complete with no actual verse, just a drums&vocals filler part before the all-important singalong chorus.
     

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