Discussion in 'The Sound Hound Lounge' started by Bunky, Dec 6, 2016.
How do you distinguish Brian Jones from Keith Richards playing?
Whichever one sounds like it was played by a wide-eyed dopey looking MF'er -- that's Brian. If it sounds like it was played by a sneaky bastard with a bottle of Jack in one hand and your woman in the other -- that's keith
Yeah, it's hard. Keith hadn't really cemented his style by then.
Most likely, Brian would be slide (as noted above and Keith would do Chuck Berry leads, etc.).
The later you get, the less likely the guitar is Brian at all - he did all the oddball instrumentation on their mid sixties things - sitar, marimba, recorder, trumpet, harpsichord, dulcimer, etc. and Keith would play the guitar parts.
Check out all the live clips from the mid sixties on YouTube: The T.A.M.I. Show, Ready Steady Go!, Shivaree, Hullabaloo etc. are great for working out who played what.
Also, I believe the Bo Diddley influenced tremolo lead work and slide guitar are all Brian:
I Wanna Be Your Man
Please Go Home
Brian`s also got the lead riff on The Last Time and his hooks in 19th Nervous Breakdown work perfectly as well.
An example of his harmonica skills:
The live videos ca. 64-66 are very revealing.
I've read Keith say that when Brian was in the band they didn't have lead and rhythm roles so it can sometimes be hard to tell. Guitar duties were only defined as lead/rhythm after Mick Taylor joined.
I had the privilege of helping Ian Stewart with the Stones gear for 2 shows in 1965. Got to hang with them and we were on stage with them while they played! Our job was to pull the girls off that made it past the frontline cops. Also on the show The Byrds and Paul Revere and The Raiders. Still got an autograph pic. Used to have a bunch of pics of me and the band that a GF lost in non payment of a storage bill. Dang! Both Brian and Keith were great and an organized team. They were super cool with us to the point of showing us a few things on guitar. The parts to Off The Hook was one I remember. Great memories!
Not much to distinguish. After their first few years (63-5) when you hear a guitar 9/10 times it was Keith, and when you hear something or nothing else past vocals, guitars, bass, drum and keyboards, tHat was was Brian. I was a teen and big fan at the time, and until reading KR's Life, I had always wondered why I never noticed the musical absence of BJ in their mid-late 60's material. He may have been a gifted musician, but became a pathetic basket case, and a public spectacle instead - sorry for my lack of empathy, long time ago.
Succinct and accurate!
As much as the Mick Taylor/Keith Richards period is my favorite Stones era by a mile, Brian was responsible for contributing some very interesting tones/textures/arrangements on the early stuff.
Mother's Little Helper, Get Off My Cloud and Paint it Black are just a couple examples...
Brian's tone sounds like it's under water.
Keith was a lot more than a Chuck clone. He did that well but he was all over the place on the early stuff.
IMO Brian didn't have a signature tone and it often was jangly live. Sounds like a predecessor to Andy Gill in the video. On the studio recording there are more guitars and though I'm not certain I think Keith played that part.
So he didn't play much if any guitar after 65?s
Reason i started this thread was just to find out about where I could here is influence/playing with the Stones. He seems like an interesting charcater, his sense of fashion was great.
How integral was he?
Considering he used a Vox teardrop with flat wound strings, through a Fender Showman or a Vox AC 30, I think his tone was great.
Awesome video. I can't imagine how loud they must have had those Fenders to get that delicious little crunch going. No fuzz pedals in sight.
They were badass back then.