How good of a bass player was Gene Simmons?

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  1. wrong_note_rod

    wrong_note_rod Member

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    He's not Jaco but he's better than a lot give him credit for. He can walk a bass line and sing lead at the same time. I was always impressed with anybody who could do that.
     
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    Good enough to get the job done i guess.
     
  3. Teal_66

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    I don't think Kiss would've sounded right if Simmons busted out some Chris Squire chops. Kind of wouldn't have sounded right.
     
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  4. Shomemusic

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    Being the bass player for a world famous rock band is an amazing accomplishment. Pretty darn good I would say.
     
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    Apparently good enough for 5 pages of tgp mileage, and counting
     
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  6. Old Man Old Wood

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    Was???? I did'nt even know he was sick.
     
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    True - but Gene was not a session monster like Carole. Apples and oranges.
     
  8. music321

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    He can play bass about as well as a whale can climb a tree.
     
  9. Cosmiceddie

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    Sure Know Something and Naked City include amazing bass lines.
     
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    Somebody once said that every time some huge rock act plays a sold out concert to thousands of screaming fans, 5 miles away a jazz band is playing at 10 ten times the proficiency level. That struck a chord with me and I don't ever put too much stock in the whole rock star celebrity thing.
    I thought Simmons did a pretty good job on Detroit Rock City, but for him bass playing has probably been more of a means to an end than mastery of the art.
     
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    What does 'good' really mean? How are good bassists different from bad bassists?

    It's a dangerous over-simplification to believe that some bassists are innately ‘good’ while other bassists innately 'evil’ or ‘bad.’ This misleading concept underpins the justice system of many Gear Page posts - ‘bad’ people commit musical crimes, and since they are intrinsically ‘bad,’ they should be locked away so that they can’t harm us with their ‘evil’ bass playing. This concept has also fuelled many posts and conflicts in history, even in the present day. It makes posters believe that they are fighting a just cause against an ‘evil’ bassist and that once the ‘evil’ bassists have been killed, peace, goodness and a strong groove will reign supreme.

    Bass playing is infinitely more complex than this, of course. With bassists, ‘Good’ and ‘evil’ are fluid. Bass playing can be a combination of ‘good’ and ‘bad’ qualities. Some players who plunk cruelly and brutally can be rehabilitated and eventually display ‘good’ qualities such as empathy and kindness, as well as a sense of where the “one” actually is. And rather than being intrinsic, most cruel or brutal bass playing is due to environmental factors, such as an abusive childhood, reliance on shorts, make up or special effects, making too much money, or social learning from peers, drug dealers, and so on.

    Good and evil are flexible. Most bassists lie somewhere between the extremes of Jaco Pastorious and Sid Vicious on the spectrum of bass playing. Sometimes bassists may behave badly, when egocentric impulses cause them to put their needs before the welfare of others. Sometimes bassists behave in a saintly fashion, when empathy and compassion impel them to put the needs of band, song and listeners before our own, resulting in altruism and kindness and conveyed by even quarter notes, haunting mids, and a big bottom.

    With a apologies to: https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/out-the-darkness/201308/the-real-meaning-good-and-evil
     
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  12. rumbletone

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    Are you confident that he in fact wrote those bass lines/songs? By the end of that period once Bob Ezrin was involved, my impression is that the band were doing little more than bringing ideas into the studio and Ezrin and other songwriters were actually turning them into coherent songs...

     
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    Good enough to make a living.
     
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    The band was able to record and play live.
    The records sold.
    The fans were entertained.
    And of course they got paid.

    Sounds like a great bass player too me.

    Technically, the notes were played in time to the beat, good!
    Creatively, the songs were written and sold and entertained millions, good.
     
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    Most people here haven't done it. ;)
     
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    I have very seldom enjoyed listening to "great players".
    Chet Atkins is the only one I can think of this minute.
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    I have seen Kiss several times. Never seen Gene even look at at his hands while he was playing. He was dead on. Honestly much better than most.
     
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    This is how good he is:




    He did look at his hands through from time to time when playing these incredible solos.

    I'd say he is almost up there with Verdine White:
     
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  19. Rich b in tempe

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    Come-on, lets call it like i see it:HE SUCKS! But he's got 96 million bux! Who cares what his skill level is. Put him up next to Paul McCartney-or John Entwistle, he cant even swim in their pond!
     
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  20. Rod

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    Love the wig Gene:eek:
     

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