How High to Wear The Guitar?

Discussion in 'Playing and Technique' started by acemcguire, Apr 25, 2008.

  1. avincent52`

    avincent52` Member

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    How you wear your guitar can save your life...

    My friend Wayne Henderson is a virtuoso bluegrass/old time player, and he wears his guitar very high, the way most pickers in that style do. It's actually a very efficient position. (link below, great playing, funny joke)

    But a couple years ago, the guitar started rubbing on a little spot on his chest.
    He went to the doctor about his blood pressure, and the doc suggested checking it out. (lucky coincidence #2) It turns out that he had breast cancer. Really. It's very rare in guys but it does happen now and again. (And FWIW, Wayne's plenty "testosterony" and he's got a plenty hairy chest.)

    The good news. The brother of one of his mandolin customers is the best breast surgeon in the southeast, and has actually treated a number of male breast cancer patients. The course of the disease "seems" worse in men because they and their doctors ignore it until the tumor is the size of a baseball.
    But when it's detected early, as it was because of Wayne's dreadnought, it's very treatable and he's now fully cancer free.

    When the doctor was discussing treatment options, he said that if he had surgery there'd be no need for chemo or radiation, but he'd lose his nipple.
    Wayne said, "That's no big deal, doc. I ain't never used it for nothing before."

    He's one of my dearest friends and I'm forever grateful to that old guitar.

    best
    Allen
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsY22tec7Gk&feature=related
     
  2. onemind

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    My good friend and teacher Adam often gigs with an old small bodied steinberger guitar, He wears it high enough that it resembles a bow tie!
     
  3. jeffrey827

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    i think you should wear it wherever you want. as long as it is comfortable and your wrist can flex around the guitar without your thumb poppin out over the neck you should be fine. i like to wear my guitar down pretty low but it really depends on what type of guitar you have. if it like a acoustic guitar which is pretty thick than you probably need to wear it higher. if it is a strat which is the smallest of the small(full size) then you can wear it lower. yea.
     
  4. henry_the_horse

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    I usually measure the length of the strap by playing the guitar while sitting and placing my left foot on a guitar stool. I stretch the strap up to where the guitar does not dance too much over my thigh, then I stand up and make the strap shorter if the guitar is being scratched by the belt buckle. When I use an archtop or acoustic guitar I take my belt off.

    I have found after many years of classical guitar studing, that this is the most comfortable and ergonomic position for me. Arms, hand bridge, finger joints and armpit relax and set naturally over the guitar with no strain.

    I use to wear the guitar lower, Slash style, but after 4 non-stop working hours at bars and pubs my hand crampped in such a way that I felt I had lost it for the night. The pain and strain was unbearable, and I had to keep on singing and cover for the lack of lead guitar. After some massages everything went easier and that was goodbye for me to Slash-land.
     
  5. spjoker

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    What I've always heard was..1st set the guitar on your lap/leg. 2nd put the strap on and adjust to equal height..3rd stand up and it should fall at about the same point as it would if you were sitting down.
     
  6. njhead

    njhead Member

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    my strap supports the weight of the guitar whether sitting or standing. that way all those hours spent practicing actually count for something at the gig!
     
  7. jzguitar

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    Great thread - one of those things that doesn't always get discussed but is just as important as pedals, tubes, etc.... I usually sit when I practice so I try to find a comfortable middle ground between where the guitar is when sitting and having it be low enough to not look completely goofy (although I'm caring less and less about that lately!).
    However, when we've done TV stuff where we are "air-guitaring" to tracks, I've always lowered the strap a few inches for some extra cool factor. I can't play for crap with it that low, though.
    A buddy of mine is out with Dream Theater and they built little foot risers for Petrucci for the specific purpose of giving him a way to raise up the guitar for difficult passages. I seem to remember them being cool looking diamond-plate material and costing as much as a really nice amp!
     
  8. ljdsam

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    I saw a clip on Youtube (now removed for some reason) of some guy soloing over a melodic passage, and one of the licks he played I decided to learn.

    But I can't play it unless I'm sat bending over the guitar - my fingers won't stretch far enough.
    However wearing the guitar that high, as was said before, = bowtie!

    -------------------5-8-10-8-5-----------------------------------------
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    -----------5-7-10-------------10-7-5----------------------------------
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    ---5-8-10-----------------------------10-8-5--------------------------
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    ..and repeat a couple of times at full speed.

    Nice riff! Doubt Slash could do it with his guitar round the knees.
     
  9. aaron1433

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    I practice sitting down a lot, with a footstool. I go high when I use a strap. Fashion trends be damned.
     
  10. NateFreezy

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    Anyone have any good pics of Page/ Slash etc. with the guitar slung really low?

    Oh, what about Hetfield? Just in terms of looks, doesn't get any cooler for me than the low-slung explorer c. 1989 (ah, and to be able to downpick like that...)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEL6_SuQCu8

    :drink
     
  11. bsuite

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    That's pretty low but, Doug Pinnick (king'sx) has got to be the lowest I've seen.
    man. I don't know how he does it.

     
  12. DSnellen79

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    I think it depends on what your playing (style). If your James Hatfield or Green Day that only plays power chords then play it as low as you want. However if your a real technical player i.e. jazz, blues, some rock and maybe even some county stuff your going to play a little higher up. I used to play a little low. For me that was with the guitar centered on my belt buckle. That was low for me. I now play higher with the guitar on my belly just under my rib cage. I find that I can reach the higher fret board better and can play some of the licks a little better. I think playing around your knees looks stupid. My brother-in-law plays too. He plays a little low but if you watch him he stands all bent over and knees bent like he is trying to reach his guitar while its trying to get away from him. Its almost as if he is playing the guitar on his lap! its kinda funny, I'm going to have to give him slack now. I read somewhere that you should play the guitar the same as if you were seated and in your lap. The guitar shouldn't move between the two positions. In general I think the more technical players play higher than those that are not so technical. However there are exceptions like Slash. I know I couldn't play like that guy no matter how high my guitar is.
     
  13. SRVYJM

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    Medium low for me. I find if I play too high it really starts to hurt my right shoulder. My right arm has to be really relaxed to play a set, and I sit with my guitar during practice so it's between my legs (classical style) but about the same height as when I stand.

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    This is back a couple of years ago when my hair was longer, but none the less this is where I hang my guitar still. This is actually a little higher then I currently play live. It's not Jimmy Page low, but it's lower then most, and I can play some pretty complicated chords just fine with no pain or without stretching too much.

    I should add though, if I play my Les Paul, it's practially Jimmy Page low. I find that the Les Paul hangs much more naturally lower, and because of the arched top, raised bridge and angled back neck, it's actually a LOT easier to play low then a Strat is. The Strat to me naturally hangs with the neck and strings lined up with my belt, the Les Paul lower then that, since it's much heavier and does not have the contours.
     
  14. Mickey Shane

    Mickey Shane apolitical Silver Supporting Member

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    I'm with the "same height seated or standing" crowd.
    But thought I'd post this photo from Metallica at the RnR HoF concert.
    Their bass player, Robert Trujillo, played the show with his bass down around his knees (see him on left side of pic).
    He must have close to a 7' wingspan or something, as I can't imagine playing that low, even with it angled up as he has it.

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  16. cugel

    cugel Supporting Member

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    i am not a very big guy at 5.7 so mine is med high
    i just cant play it @ page or billy jo height
    seems like the rev is low too
    but jeez does page hoave long arms or waht
     
  17. raven174us

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    If you look up some old videos of Rob. He use to play classical/jazz style music and would have the bass up to his chest.
    I like my guitar around my crotch area. I can play it higher but it feels weird. Any lower and I'm unable to bar chords.




    (EDIT) I found a pic.....
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  18. CharAznable

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    If you can't play with your left elbow bent, then it's too low.
     
  19. schmerf

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    I hadn't given where I wear my guitar much thought. I just snapped a picture to see and it looks like I wear mine higher than most.

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  20. mlt1214

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    I like mine pretty high- somewhere between my stomach and the center of my chest.
     

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