How loud is the TopHat King Royale...

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  1. Teh RedWizard

    Teh RedWizard Supporting Member

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    ....2x12 combo on full-bore? Also,what are some GREAT speaker combinations that you King owners have found to really get the most out of this amp?:bow I'm in the process of buying,I think an '01 or '02 model with 2 TopHat labeled Celestions...what would these likely be? Thanks~
     
  2. guitarmook

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    Can't speak to speakers, but the King Royale is PLENTY loud on 'full-bore'... heck, even the Club Royale (2x12) was hard to turn all the way up in club settings.
     
  3. saucyjack

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    It's plenty loud and cuts...
    The King Royale used to come with Weber Blue dog ceramic variants made for Tophat,I believe.Not sure about Celestions.
    I have a Weber Alnico Blue and Tophat Weber and it sounds real good.
     
  4. Dukevette

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    Plenty Loud! I have a 99 KR with a Weber Blue & Celestion Green just retubed and I cant and wont crank it to 13!
     
  5. beatlebob

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    i own a 2002 king royale. it is a phenomenal amp. truly great. it is severely loud on full bore. too loud. i toured with mine for 5 years. i got really sick of being asked to turn down, and trying to find compromises (turning the master down, using attenuation, turning the amp around, etc). i now use an AC15 instead (it also has half power switch that takes it down to 7.5 watts).
    if the king royale had fuller low end, and was considerably quieter it would be the greatest amplifier ever. one summer we opened for a big artist, playing outdoor amphitheaters (15-20,000 seaters). i had the master volume on HALF and our sound guy considered it ridiculous. the amp is loud.
     
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    also, i wouldn't get all fussy about speaker combos....brian knows his sh*t big time, and whatever is loaded in there stock from the factory u can bet is the best compliment for the amp. (mine is top hat labeled greenbacks....i considered putting a blue in, but didnt want to fix something that is far from broken).
     
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    Plenty Loud,but very good tone.
     
  8. riffmeister

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    The TopHat labeled speakers are Celestion G12H 30 watt speakers.
     
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    I use one as my main amp.... can get really loud. Has great bass response when up to volume. I love the amp, but I do get volume complaints a lot.... usually have to settle for under the sweet spot. I have a Greenback and a Weber Silver Bell in mine. I know that Brain has changed the speaker configuration a few times with his amps.... but I don't think I've ever heard a complaint on the stock speakers.
     
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    Tophats are the finest amps on Earth. And yes, it is loud.
     
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  11. Teh RedWizard

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    Good answers...anybody else?
     
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    I've got a KR w/ 4x6V6s (called an Embassy, only made in '96-'98 I think). It's loud but has a wide sweet spot and an impressive range of tones from the very versatile EQ. I use a 5Y3 rectifier in mine most of the time which adds some sag and lowers the headroom a good bit from the stock GZ34 rec. TopHat re-labeled Celestion speakers are almost certainly going to be 70th Anniversary G12H-30s, which I like alot once broken in. Consider swapping one for a Heritage H, that's the combination I'm running now with the Embassy and my Emplexador.

    Overall it's a really great amp, to me it's perfect club size but I like healthy stage volume...
     
  13. ROKY

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    The Embassy is no more a King Royale than an Ambassador 35 is an
    Embassy, although the Embassy and Amb 35 might have more similiar
    tones, being Fender derived.

    I have 2 Embassys and neither is a King Royale; sorry .

    Ok, that being said : I also have a King Royale, made in 2002 .

    It is a loud amp but the MV works well so you can turn down and
    retain your tone, and it only requires some minor EQ tweaking as
    you bring the master down.

    I'm running it thru a pair of Celestion Golds in an oversized Avatar 2x12.
    The Golds are very efficient at 100dB rating, so between the inherent
    Vox voicing and the speakers it is a loud amp that cuts thru .

    The drummer in my band is very dynamic and tasteful, but he hits hard
    and he asks me to turn down all the time in rehearsals, which I would
    do if he wasn't hitting the drums so hard !:roll
     
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    Hmm that's interesting b/c in conversations with Brian G. about my amp he said it was very close to a KR in circuit, that the Ch. 1 tonestack was different (more Fender than Vox) but that Ch.2 was the same and the major difference was the transformers needed to run the 6V6s.
     
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    My amps talked to each other and they said :

    " You sound a lot different than I do.. " :D

    Hey at times I talked to Brian he could barely remember the Embassy, so..
    ... it's all good . :AOK

    I guess the main issue here would be volume as that's what the OP
    wanted to know about.

    Rock on, with yo bad self !
     
  16. openbar

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    It depends what you're playing for music. If your bandmates are rocking full stacks and SVTs, you may not be able to keep up. Otherwise, yeah it's only 33 watts, but it's plenty loud, because it has a tone that cuts through (it is inspired by the AC30, after all).

    For speakers I have a Tophat labeled Celestion, and an Eminence Red Fang. Glorious!
     
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    Your amps can talk? :eek: :D

    That is strange, maybe you caught him on a busy day b/c he even remembered upgrading my particular amp and we discussed it in detail a couple of times....

    Regardless, great amps and healthy in the volume dept. Is there a difference in output level between your KR and Embassy? Seems like the big bottles would be louder and bigger sounding...
     

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