how much of the tele sound is the bridge?

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  1. jzucker

    jzucker Supporting Member

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    In my search for a tele, I've seen some nice andersons and melancons that don't use a bridge plate. How much of the tele bridge sound requires the real tele bridge ?
     
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    Its definitely the signature of the guitar IMO - the metal plate behind the pickup just adds to that tone. To me the neck sounds great too - but sort of falls back more in the range of strat sounds ...less discernible or something.

    Maybe thats why we see a lot of neck Hum Tele's (thats what I have) to me a tele with a neck hum and classic bridge just give a great variety of tones in one guitar.
     
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    Thanks Shawn. I wonder if anyone's tried converting an anderson or melancon to a standard T bridge? Why would they make a tele with the non-tele bridge?
     
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    The big plate and heavy saddles are a big part of the tele sound.
     
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    In my reccent experience with changing bridges on my Tele, I can tell you the bridge (especially a nice thin one) is a big part of the classic Tele sound.
     
  6. Kappy

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    I have wondered this myself.

    I'm pretty sure both Gerard and Tom have said they prefer the sound of the bridges they use and that's why they don't seem to offer them as much (and in the case of Anderson at all). I think I could easily put that bridge on my Mel without even having to change the pickguard, but I'm not sure how easy it would be to do on an Anderson.

    That being said, my Mel blackguard has plenty of great tele tone, not that much different from the couple of Fenders I have with the plate bridge (the difference to me could easily be in the pickups). For me the only way to know for sure would be to A/B bridges on the same guitar a few times.
     
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    40% Bridge
    40% Bridge Pickup
    20% Ash/Alder Body
    10% Hands
     
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    Speaking of which, does anyone make a great Strat bridge pickup with a plate that sounds more Esquire, or tele like?
     
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    Throw in another 50% for attitude.

    Gantt

     
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    Strung through the body and shared brass barrel saddles are why a Tele crushes a Strat.
     
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    I dunno. I've played some 'Teles' without the 3-barrel bridge plate, but with standard tele style pickups that still sounded pretty damn tele to me. I do think the plate does contribute some attitude if you will, but IMO it'd be the only last 10% or so of the equation.
     
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    Sorry, I can't hang with that. The hands with a Tele matter more than that IMO. Tele's make me play harder and it really affects the outcome.

    As for bridges I think it matters alot. I have a handbuilt Tele with handwound pickups and a fat, solid brass bridge, brass nut and brass saddles and it's mighty. I never compared the brass with a standard.
     
  13. Polynitro

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    Well I was thinking more of some Tele players can make other guitars sound like a Tele with their hands/style/technique...And when I hear someone hit an open E note on a Tele it still sounds like a Tele, "Look Ma no hands!....Bomp!"
     
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    I concur with much of what is posted above :

    The tele bridge makes a big difference - as well as the choice of saddles

    modern 6 saddle bridges , 3 saddles w/ Brass OR steel , top loader, etc

    They all have subtle effects on tone but the tele tone is SO telling that its definitely audible

    Keef uses a modern 6 saddle gotoh ( 5 saddle actually - LOL ) and gets great teles tone -so let's dont get TOO hardcore. Teles just sound great all around - but my preference is a 3 saddle bridge ( either brass or steel - depending on the guitar )
     
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    Duncan makes a 'twangbanger' which is a strat bridge but has all the winds/structure of a tele/esquire pup with the brass plate on the bottom and it works and sounds great in a strat for those of us who also love teles/esquires :)
     
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    v important i think as is teh thru body
     
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    Well I'm pretty sure that the bridge plate enhances the magnetic field of the pickup. If you take it away you must, to some degree, alter the sound. Having said that I think the wood has a big influence on the Tele sound too. My Tele copy has a basswood body with a 6 saddle bridge and plate + vintage low output s/c pups and it's pretty deep and meaty sounding - at least compared to traditional alder or ash body Teles.
     
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    You can order a SUhr start that way - I did. But it still doesn't sound just like a Tele
     
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    Am I missing something? With all these replies I'm hearing a lot of a subjective opinions about the differences but nothing concrete or scientific that can be proven objectively. Has anyone actually done any serious testing or A/B'ing different bridges on the exact same guitar?
     
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