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How to install Gotoh Locking Klusons on an LP Standard Faded

Discussion in 'Luthier's Guitar & Bass Technical Discussion' started by steved0x, Sep 22, 2008.

  1. steved0x

    steved0x Member

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    I just got some Gotoh Locking Kluson tuners for my LP. I was reading the instructions and it talks about needing a punch to get the old bushings out before installing the new ones. But I thought I also heard they were a drop in replacement and that I didn't have to pop out the bushings. Before I head to the hardware store to find a punch or some way to get the old bushing out I thought I would ask here:

    Do I need to take the old bushings out?
    What's the best way to do it?

    Thanks!

    Steve
     
  2. RvChevron

    RvChevron Member

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    Did you try to mount it? Unless the original bushings are too small, the Gotoh should fit.
     
  3. Bob V

    Bob V Member

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    You don't need to go buy a big drift pin punch (although a set of those does come in handy if you're a tool hound). If you have a good drill index (that goes beyond 1/4"), you should have a drill bit large enough to punch the bushings yet small enough to fit in the hole. Use the blunt end of the drill bit as a punch.

    But RvChevron's right, first try the new tuners in the old bushings - if you have press-fit bushings then the inside diameter of the bushing should be close enough to the new ones that you won't have a problem. If your LP is a production model (not custom shop) and new enough, then it might have bolt bushings that have to be unscrewed from the front, and they'd leave a big hole that you need to use "conversion bushings" in order to use the Kluson style tuners. Most bolt bushings need a 10mm open end wrench.
     
  4. steved0x

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    It is a 2008 Les Paul Standard Faded. I didn't want to start the job until I was sure that I had the tools I need, but I guess I should take one off and see what happens :) I'll report back with what I find, thanks for the info!

    Steve
     
  5. Eagle1

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    Standards have had Gotoh vintage (small press in bushings) since 2002.
    Should be a direct fit on one of those.
     
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    Any update on this? I have a 07 Standard Faded that I am thinking about putting locking tuners on and i would be interested to see how this works out.
     
  7. steved0x

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    I haven't had a chance to install them yet. I am waiting on some GuitarForce pickups, and when they come in I am going to change the tuners and the pickups at the same time. I just put on new strings and I think I can keep them when I change tuners, but once I have the locking tuners on not sure if I can loosen the strings enough to get the bridge off to change the pickups.

    How do you like your standard so far?

    Steve
     

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