How to know when a nut is cut properly?

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  1. Flugel

    Flugel Member

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    I know this is important to avoid tuning issues, but how do I know that it isn't working as expected?:confused:
     
  2. FractalGarden

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    Do you hear a "ping" when tuning up? That's a good indicator.
     
  3. stevieboy

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    If you don't notice it, it's working fine!
     
  4. GCDEF

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    The ping is a good indicator.

    If you bend a string and it doesn't come back in tune, but does come back in tune with a little tug, it's binding in the nut.

    If you have a whammy bar and it comes back out of tune, but goes back in tune with a little tug on the bar, it's a nut problem.
     
  5. Silverburst11

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    You're not playing a Gibson? :rimshot
     
  6. Doctor Morbius

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    An F chord is just as easy as a G chord and the guitar stays in tune.
     
  7. Flugel

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    Yes, at least one of my LPs has tuning issues and I can hear that "ping".

    Solution?:huh
     
  8. frankg11

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    ping...

    I get that dreaded sound on some guitars. I do use Dr. Duck's AxWax which helps a bit but still. What is the real solution?
     
  9. Blix

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    No pings, fine and crystal clear tone with an open chord and no cramps doing an F barre.
     
  10. Flugel

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    Does this really help?Bigbends nut sauce.

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  11. Blix

    Blix Supporting Member

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    If the nut isn't cut properly it doesn't help much. But with a good nut it's great!
     
  12. VaughnC

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    The nut slot width, height, and takeoff angle are very important.

    Slot width: this needs to be proper to prevent string pinch & binding. A properly cut nut shouldn't need the slots lubricated.

    Slot height: this needs to be proper for playability and intonation. I like my nut slots cut slightly higher than a fretted note to allow for the additional flop with open strings in open string chords. Slots cut too low, and open strings will rattle against the first fret....too high, and the playability and intonation suffer.

    Slot takeoff angle: this needs to be cut properly so the fretted and open strings play in tune with each other. Open string notes need to be formed from the front edge of the nut, otherwise the guitar will intonate properly with open strings, but not at the first fret. A good tuner will show if the nut slot takeoff angles are cut properly by checking the open string pitch and the first fret pitch. Of course, the slot height has to be right as well as its takeoff angle.
     
  13. mad dog

    mad dog Silver Supporting Member

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    The ping ... won't stay in tune ... action a bit too stiff down on the first fret, better higher up ... intonation not quite right. Vaughan C describes the process very well. Takes finesse and good feel to properly cut a nut. And you can really feel the difference.
    MD
     

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