How to make a Tweed Pro sound absolutely killer.

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  1. hogy

    hogy Member

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    I've owned this '60 Tweed Pro for 30 years (it used to belong to Eldon Shamblin of Bob Wills and the Texas Playboys), and hated the 15” speaker for just as long. Tried every 15” known to man, “best” was an old Altec 418B, which was still awful, just less so.

    Finally had to decide to either sell this thing or make it right. So I broke out the router and made a reducer ring from 15” to 12”, and put a proper speaker in it.

    Now it sounds unbelievable, can’t wait to bring it to the gig Friday.


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  2. Donn Rowe

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    The amp is probably asking what took you so long LOL. I dislike 15's for guitar. The mids are in a different place and they feel like crap . YMMV
     
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    Ha! I bought a '58 about 28 years ago, which was stripped of its tweed and sporting a second baffle (over the original), housing a 1978 Celestion G12-65. I swear it was the best sounding tweed Fender I'd ever heard.
     
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    deytookerjaabs Supporting Member

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    And to that I'll just take that '64 Vibroverb off anyone's hands if ye be donatin'.
     
  5. hogy

    hogy Member

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    Vibroverb? Pro Reverb with a crappy speaker, as I call it.
     
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  6. Echoplexi

    Echoplexi Silver Supporting Member

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    How are you liking the Cream with it specifically? I’m a big fan of that speaker with pretty much any amp
     
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  7. hogy

    hogy Member

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    Best speaker made today. It kills in the Pro.
     
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    you should try that amp w/ 3 x 10's
     
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  9. hogy

    hogy Member

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    I have that amp with 3 10"s. It's called a "Tweed Bandmaster".

    And, by the way, the Bandmaster cab is larger, 3 10"s do not physically fit in the Pro.

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  10. deytookerjaabs

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    I just have a lowly Tweed Pro clone with an old utah 15" but I absolutely love the amp. If I'd had the dough last year a local vintage later model (5E5?) came up for sale...price dropped multiple times until $2500. Had it been today it'd be mine. IMO, perfect small club amp and you can get a lot out of it between jumping channels, knob fiddlin', etc. Surprised they're not more popular.
     
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  11. hogy

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    Have you ever plugged your Pro into a guitar speaker cab?

    They're very popular, it's just that many people don't realize it. Tweed Super and Tweed Bandmaster are the same amp as the Pro, just different speakers. Low Power Tweed Twin and two hole Bassman are almost the same, minus some minor differences in the power supply and separate triodes for the inputs on the Twin.
    And, of course, OT size an speaker impedance.
     
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    I haven't plugged it into anything else.

    But, I have a Marshall "Reissue" 1960TV cab, an over sized 4x12, and all it does is make me feel guilty when I plug into it as most places I play give me a dirty look for anything bigger than a Princeton! When I ran my Germino through it the world made sense.
     
  14. hogy

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    Yes I have. Not only did I not like it, it also is way too heavy for the thin , floating baffle of the Tweed Pro.

    I've tried all versions of Jensen Alnico 15s, Ps, Qs, Ns. Ceramic C15Ns. Utah, Oxford, JBLs (possibly the worst, I tried at least three different ones), Celestions new and old, newer Eminences, German Isophone (pretty good), Altec, and more I can't remember or care to. All had the exact same characteristics, all sucked.
     
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  15. stark

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    Tweed pro is such a classic circuit. I'm sure it sounds killer with that speaker. Perfect club volume. I miss my tweed super.
     
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  16. hogy

    hogy Member

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    Quintessential "Tweed" tone.
     
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    Never to be duplicated without that original iron.
     
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    Eldon! That's a historical piece.
    I remember reading an article in Fretboard Journal about Neil Young's gear caretaker. He said the perfect tweed would be a Pro with a 12".
    I also remember watching Andy with the Time Jumpers carry one of these into the Station Inn. It look like the whole thing was going fall apart but man did sound good.
     
  19. mcuguitar

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    Great call on the speaker. Love my Alnico Creams!
     
  20. Daniel Travis

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    15s for guitar give me a case of the cringe. Good call, @hogy

    Mother of god, what year is that 295?
     

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