How to wire a Strat 5 Way Import Switch?

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  1. IamKrisJones

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    Hello tekkies!
    I have just swapped the pickups in my Strat and at the same time I would like to change the 5 way configuration. The way it is now was eliminating the tone pot for the bridge pickup but I would like to be able to use it. Problem is the guitar has an import switch (YM-50) and all I can find are diagrams explaining for regular 5 way switches. Can somebody show me or explain how I need to wire an import switch properly? Somebody previously said to jump 4 and 6 to get tone pot working on the bridge again? Also at the moment it has 4 and 5 jumped together. Is that supposed to be and do I keep it that way for what I need?
    Thanks for the assistance!
    Kris

    Pics for views of how it was previously:

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    Move the bottom tone pot wire one lug to the right (the unused one) and it should now work on your bridge pickup instead of middle.
     
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    I found this just now. Is this accurate?

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    But I want it to work for the middle pickup as well.
     
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    Then you just make a bridge over to the unused lug.
     
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    Between which lugs? Sorry, this is very new to me.
     
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    Here:

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    I think I just did :p
     
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    So sorry man. I appreciate your help, I really do. But can you run down what wire should go where if you can please? Or confirm if the diagram I posted above is accurate.
    Thanks
     
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    Look closer at the modified pic, you just solder a short wire across those two lugs. From the unused one to the one left of it.
     
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    Awesome! Thanks man!
     
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    This look ok to you guys?

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    Yes it does, but I never use that switch, I throw it away as soon as I can. But test the instrument now, before you put the instrument together. You can tap a small screwdriver on the pole pieces, operate the switch and all the pots and here whether you have the desired change in place.
     
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    So everything works, except. My 2nd tone pot works for the bridge and middle pickup. Is that normal? I thought the middle pickup would still be controlled by the 1st tone pot.
     
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    Sound like it is like it should be, first tone pot for neck, and the second(closest to the floor) for bridge/middle.
     
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    Ok, cool! Just not used to it like that I guess. My only Strat and has been like this since I have it so I'll have to get used to it. Thanks for your help everybody! :D
     
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    Anyone know whether the standard Fender 5-way switch is shorting or non-shorting? Need to implement similar functionality using a rotary switch & not certain which flavor to order. Thanks.
     
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    Make before break, or break before make you mean? Make before break, to avoid brief pop/silence when switching.

    Edit: Well the Fender switch is really only a three way make-before-break, with two extra mechanical detents, so doesn't translate directly to a rotary. If you're using a rotary switch with five electrically distinct positions, it probably doesn't matter, as you are going to be bridging poles on each wafer anyway (to get the in-between positions), creating the make yourself. I think you need at least four wafers to copy the action of the Fender switch (to get 1+2, 2+3, and not 1+2+3) for pickup/tone, but I will spot the flaw in my logic tomorrow upon waking.

    Wafer 1 Pickup:
    1 1 X 3 3
    Wafer 2 Pickup:
    X 2 2 2 X
    Wafer 3 Tone:
    X R R R X
    Wafer 4 Tone
    X X X F F


    But if your 5 way 4 wafer rotary switch really is make before break, then tone can be on one wafer, leaving wafer 4 for something else like:

    Wafer 3 Tone:
    X R R F F
    Wafer 4 Coil Split:
    X 1 X 3 X
     
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