How will reliced guitars look in 30 years?

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  1. dm4501

    dm4501 Member

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    Let me preface this thread by saying , while I don't currently own a reliced, or pre-aged, whatever you want to call the process, guitar, I think they're cool and have a valid aesthetic going.

    My question is, what will happen to the finish as it truly ages over the years?
    Will the ambered aging tints turn brown?
    Will the prematurely induced checking cause the finsh to turn to dust and fall off the guitar?
    Will they continue to age gracefully?
    Etc.

    This is not meant to be brand specific, just something, I've been thinking about. It's all conjecture and only time will tell.
    Any opinions?
     
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    As a fan of relic'd guitars, I'm really interested to see what people have to say about this one as well.
     
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    Dave Orban Gold Supporting Member

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    I think they'll look not too dissimilar from the way they came out of the relic factory.

    I think a lot of the "real" relics have been "helped along" by owners wanting to impart some "mojo."

    Don't think for a minute that Rory's Strat got to look that way because he was PLAYING it. ;)

    I've seen (and have owned) enough 50+ year old guitars that look pretty damned new, in spite of some minor finish checking.

    I think as we get old(er), a lot of this stuff will eventually end up under the bed, and MIGHT someday get played by somebody else, but if the desire to make live music diminishes as the boomer generation dies off, there might well be WAY more guitars than players out there...
     
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    Chops Gold Supporting Member

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    How will reliced guitars look in 30 years?

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    Forget the guitars, how will WE look in 30 years?
     
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    It won't matter. The Mayan calendar expires in 2012. That's when the world as we know it, ends :p
     
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    Alister Supporting Member

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    No, they'll look ironically old, which is subtley different.
     
  9. dm4501

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    I can see this thread is going down a path of rather witty and humerous opinions.:D Any body got a more technical side to their nature.
    For instance what color will a guitar's finish be when the new lacquer ambers with time and it was already tinted to look old?

    It's obvious it will look old and relic'd:jo
    But will it still look cool or more like mud?
     
  10. Vince

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    In my experience, if an aged guitar finish starts out right and has a good, authentic look to start with, it just keeps looking better and better.

    Some of the aged stuff I did 20 years ago and held onto in cases looks pretty much the same. The lacquers haven't really changed in color to speak of, other than maybe a little ambering. The one's that I kept out and played just look cooler for sure. I have one old black Strat that I did in the early 90's I call "Betty". It was done with almost no finish on the neck, which has allowed the "gunk" from my fingers to accumulate in nice teardrop shapes along my personal playing patterns, which stayed in place because there was no finish to repel it after a short time. It looks great!
     
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    -or- they didn't discover how to count to 2013. :p
     
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    Hey Vince....if I order an Artifact, could you leave this step out?:D
     
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    Does Keef know about this yet ?
     
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    Or....ummmm.....just like new. :AOK

    I dunno, but I love my Rory Gallagher Strat.....not usually a big fan of relics, but that guitar has IT in spades.
     
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    more reliced. hopefully.
     
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    Aww. Beat me to it! :crazy
     
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    "Oy, that's the last time I eat an entire deer by myself."
     
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    It's funny. I justed finshed a Tele project and I was sooo careful finishing it with a thin thin lacquer finish with no sanding sealer, wet sanding the lacquer to 1500, rubbing it to a soft gloss with rottenstone and waxing it with fine furniture paste wax. The thing was beautiful - for a day. Now I've got two dings in the back from who knows what, scratches in the soft spruce top and the arm area is already getting dull. I freaked at first but know I know it is just the patina of music. Guitars relic themselves.
     
  19. koamarlin

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    Why dont you try it urself?:crazyguy
    Take a cheap strat copy and use some sandpaper. files, chains, a hammer, a razor blade , a glas of water and a mixture of tea and cigarette ashes and a brownish nitro varnish and ice spray - and go at it till you get the guitar to look like this:

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    Then start all over again!! Then you´ll know....:Devil
     
  20. lukeness

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    Well, the guitar will still look nice...

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