I didn't understand the Gibson hate... until now

Discussion in 'Guitars in General' started by metropolis_4, Dec 13, 2019.

  1. metropolis_4

    metropolis_4 Member

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    I replaced saddles on a Nashville tune-o-matic bridge tonight. Now I get it :mad::D
     
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  2. fjrabon

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    You just buy an ABR conversion kit.
     
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  3. metropolis_4

    metropolis_4 Member

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    I just wanted to put Graph Tech saddles on.

    Whoever came up with the idea for those retaining wires...
     
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  4. Guitarworks

    Guitarworks Member

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    Pfft. You got off the "Gibson trouble" hook easy.
     
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  5. saltydogg

    saltydogg Rock & Roll Enthusiast Gold Supporting Member

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    Just wait until the headstock snaps clear off the neck. Happens all the time.
     
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    guitarbilly74 Supporting Member

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    No retaining wire on a Nashville bridge.

    That's the older ABR-1 design, which Gibson replaced with the Nashville. Then people complained so they're using the ABR-1 again. Don't hate Gibson for giving people what they want. I much prefer the Nashville bridge myself.
     
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    musekatcher Supporting Member

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    And its totally coincidental that seems to happen at the same time someone walks thru a door way with a Gibson, or the guitar falls over. Its not related of course..
     
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    ShredSquatch Conspiracy Experience Director & Stunt Guitarist Supporting Member

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  9. metropolis_4

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    The Nashville have those tiny little wires around each individual screw. And you have to pry each one out and then thread the screw back through it, and press it back in. They’re ridiculous

    Haha, just to be clear, I’m totally joking





    ... but those wires!
     
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    zombiwoof Supporting Member

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    Wires?. Aren't they C-clips?.
    I wouldn't blame Gibson for the Nashville design, it was designed by Schaller years ago, to give more saddle travel for intonation over the ABR-1.
    I don't really know much about Nashvilles, except that I change out every one I get for an ABR-type bridge, I don't like the look of the Nashville, and have never needed the extra saddle travel which is the main supposed feature of the Nashville. I do know from comments I've read from players who favor the Nashville, that many like the Schaller version (which Gibson used to use) over the current PingWorks Nashville that Gibson is now using. The Schaller has more mass, and less openings in the metal work than the cheaper Ping version. I am sure that Gibson changed to the PW NV because the German-made Schaller has become a lot more expensive these days.
    Al
     
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    wipe authentic.

    :stir

    I love my Gibson so.
     
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    musekatcher Supporting Member

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    I'm not sure what the wire is for, but I just remove the whole wire when servicing the saddles? Is yours difficult to remove or something?
     
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    metropolis_4 Member

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    I don't know what the technical name is. Some type of small black wire bent into a circle that wraps around the screw and sort of hooks on either side
     
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    I read that the wires are important because without them there is enough play in the saddle that it can cause tuning problems.
     
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    fenderjapan World Heavyweight Champion Silver Supporting Member

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    Just, whatever you do, make sure you #playauthentic. :rolleyes:
     
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    ShredSquatch Conspiracy Experience Director & Stunt Guitarist Supporting Member

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    60% of the time, I #playauthentic every time!

    ~ss
     
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    Rumble Instrumental Rocker Silver Supporting Member

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    I'm guessing one of these?

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    They're E clips and they're very easy to remove if you have the right tool:


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    You can find a really cheap version at Harbor Freight for just a couple bucks.
     
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    No, they're not C clips or E clips, they're just short lengths of wire twisted around once

    Either of those would have made a lot more sense
     
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    Love it. They should include those buttwipes with every guitar just as Sweetwater does with the bag o' candy.
     
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