I Hate The DL4 But Love The Auto-Volume Swell, What Are My Options?

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  1. Snap

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    I've used the DL4 for many years and even with the Keeley mod it still has a noticeable tone suck. It's stayed on my board for two reasons mainly, the Auto-Volume Swell and the Loop feature are both easy to use and get usable sounds from quickly.

    I'd love to upgrade to a higher quality delay pedal, but am afraid mainly to lose the Auto-Volume feature.

    Some considerations:
    - Line 6 M9/M5 (but do these units suffer from the same tone suck of the DL4?)
    - Boss SG-1 Slowgear or BYOC Lazy Sprocket (but I'd have to pair this with a separate delay).

    What would you guys suggest?
     
  2. cwcashiniv

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    If you're dead-set on keeping the auto-volume option, then the M-series from Line6 will do that for you, along with giving you a slew of other options. If you want to upgrade altogether, then the Timeline has a Swell function that emulates the same thing as the auto-volume option on the Line6 pedals.
     
  3. Risewithfaith

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    I went from the DL4 to the M9 and loved it! The looper is better (easier to use) on the M9 and I didn't notice any tone loss. But, I sold the M9 for a Timeline and haven't looked back.
     
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    If you don't need the looper, the M5 would work for you.
    M9 doesn't have the tone suck of the DL4 and the looper is better:
    Print effects onto your loop or change the effects applied to the loop after you record
    Erase last layer recorded

    Timeline swell sounds great but is a little harder to use than the Line 6 auto-volume.
    You need to have a consistent technique or it will not swell some of the notes.
     
  5. StratAtak83

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    I was hoping the timeline would have an easy swell setting like the dl4, but i was let down by the swell function on the timeline. I never use it.
     
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    My first thought was timeline.
     
  7. The P-Man

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    People are so quick to say M9 or timeline but neither of those units nail the auto-volume echo on the DL4. The m-series never quite got the swell as natural sounding.
     
  8. Grizz_Lee

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    the timeline's swell delay is amazing and very natural sounding.
     
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    Echo Park has the swell mode.
     
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    :munch
     
  11. kickstrat

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    I really love the auto-volume swell on the DL4 and the loop function is cool too.
    While the loop feature in the M9 is more efficient, it could not reproduce the auto-volume swell like the DL4. Too bad...
     
  12. pedalboy88

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    The guyatone slow-volume does a great swell sound. I haven't tried the latest version but the old version works really well.
    Echo park is more similar to the dl4. I prefer the slow volume separate and away from the delay however.
    Behringer have a slow gear clone, haven't tried it.
     
  13. SG_Seth

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    I had a DL4 that I sold for a timeline. The auto swell on the dl4 was awesome. The timeline simply cannot replicate it. I sold the timeline and now have an M9. The auto swell on the m9 sounds identical to the dl4 imho.
     
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    Same here, the M9 Auto Swell sounds the same as the DL4 Auto Swell (which sounds the same as the Echo Park Auto Swell...)
     
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    I got mine with the "drasp mod" I never looked back. I need no other delay.

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    I wonder why Line6 never updated an improved DL4 version after all these years.
     
  17. Delayed Delay

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    This.

    Only big disappointment is the swell mode on the timeline.
     
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    THIS! Add global tap, continuous tap (you can set the tempo before turning the delay on), and dotted eighths so I can buy another one. These are the only reasons I sold the first one.
     
  19. Snap

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    I tried looking around online for more info on the Drasp mod but couldn't find a website, any help? Is it better/different than the keeley mod?

    I honestly didn't know Behringer made a pedal like that. I wouldn't mind trying one out if I even find one, but owning a Behringer pedal where I come from still carries the same kind of stigma as playing through a Peavey PA, or a First Act Guitar.

    IRT:
    Thanks for all the responses, I would love to go for the Timeline but many of you have confirmed that the swell function is not up to par.
    So the M9 might be a good alternative, especially since that might also allow me to get rid of the MM4 on my board.
     

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