I have a '67 BFVR on the way...

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  1. TNJ

    TNJ Gold Supporting Member

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    First one I've owned, and I'm pretty psyched!
    I heard Dana Olsen play his a couple of weeks back (with a Tele),
    and MAN did that amp sing!
    Not sure of the condition of the components, but the amp is pretty much stock from what I know.
    I'm hoping to take this amp to our smaller gigs.
    What can I do to beef this baby up? Tubes?
    Speakers (I may take the originals out, depending on condition)? Dana's had 2 of the 10" Celestion Golds....wonderful speakers for his amp.
    I've heard 5 is the magic # for vol/treb/bass. I like clean with my single coils, but also do some stuff that requires a bit of hair.
    Pedals that match up with this beast?

    More later,
    S.
    j
     
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    You don't have to say but what do you see those going for $$ now days?
     
  3. big mike

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    Vibrolux is the best amp fender ever made.
    Period.

    Congrats.

    Course Dana would sound like a choir of angels through an under powered pignose.
    Seeing him play is always a huge inspiration for me.
     
  4. TNJ

    TNJ Gold Supporting Member

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    Thanks Mike,
    And totally agree about Dana...and Leon too, for that matter!
    We had a jam at Leon's the Saturday evening of NAMM week.
    It was stellar to say the least.

    S.
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    Ha! I got to play with them Sunday at Ron's. You should've come!
     
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    TNJ Gold Supporting Member

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    Yeah...I know I missed it.
    I had a plane to catch.

    I will try to make it next time.

    S.
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    Hmmmmm, I not so sure of that, I will need to hear some politician clips before I am convinced:rotflmao

     
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    I know this is TGP and all but set aside the typical needs/GAS/desire - you don't need to do ANYTHING to a 67 BFVR in good condition. It is, plain and simple, perfect "stock". You cannot buy better tubes than what originally came in it and you cannot buy better speakers for it than what came with it (that's IMO and assumes you have the gold labels speakers).

    On mine, I turn the Bright off, the volume between 3 and 10, the treble around 6 and the bass around 5 or 6. Sounds better than anything!
     
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    first of all - congrats!
    I've got an early '66 VR (all '65 parts) with the original ceramic Jensen's (one reconed). If you have these speaks in yours and they sound good keep 'em in there, wonderful speakers. If they blow get 'em re-coned (properly). I'd like to know what you got in yours and how they sound. From my experience it's had to beat these in a VR. the alnico CTS are good. I'm not real fond of the the early ceramic CTS like they put in the '64 Super Reverbs, the later ones seem better from about '67.

    I'm runnig Winged C 6L6's and they're very nice tubes, mostly old RCA's in the preamp. I've done the normal servicing - filter caps, etc. Runs about 430V plate V. just a tad over 200V on the preamp plates. (compared to 450-460V on a Super Rev and about 275V preamp)

    With a Strat I run about 6-7 volume, 6 treb, 5 bass. these vary a bit. Almost never use bright cap. A lot of times it's hard to run that loud, I play blues & rock and usually have a TS-9 screamer, sometimes a wah. I like a little verb. Hard to beat these old amps. I love a Super Rev too but usually they're just a bit much. A lot of times I use a Princeton Reverb for smaller gigs (with a 12" speaker).
     
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    Where's the ban button.... ;)

    Agreed. If it's still got good tube stock,. The BF I borrowed/gigged for 2 years was amazing. That, tele, and a Chandler tube driver. Cried when I had to give it back.
     
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    Sounds good, guys!
    I dont plan on doing anything, in terms of maintainance, that doesnt have to be done. I have heard that the Winged C Svets are fabulous, and I have a few NOS RCA preamp tubes I may swap. Speakerwise, I'll just have to wait 'til I get the amp in (first of next week).

    Thanks so far everyone...

    S.
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    I know they are expensive but if you get some old NOS RCA black plate 6L6s, you will simply be stunned at the clarity you get.
     
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    Awesome! I'm in love with my 67/68 VR. I have the original clean Oxfords but pulled them out for preservation's sake. That, and I dont feel they hold up to volume as well as other speakers.

    I personally like a nice British flavored mismatch for a BF fender. Adds a little mids, works wonders for cranking to get overdriven tones etc. I'm rocking a Tone Tubby Alnico 10 and a Greenback 10 in mine right now. Original strong RCA blackplate 6L6s as well as a host of beautiful stock RCA pres and a Telefunken or two. Killer amp. Pretty much all I need. It's so versatile, easy to transport, has plenty of volume on tap, amazing reverb that I can't get in a pedal, etc etc.
     
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    :agree these are wonderful in that amp and are worth the $. Plus they'll last a good long time (if they're a good set)
     
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    Congrats!

    I love my VR.
     
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    YIKES....:omg,,,,,,.....:hide

     
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    Congrats! I have a very early production '64 with the, no label, black Oxford 10K-5's. Mine had a nice hole in the grillcloth, where one would place a mic for recording. I had Larry Rogers make me a plywood baffle with aged grillcloth and boxed the baffle and speakers. I'm using a pair of WGS G10C's, which sound great in this amp.
     
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    Great amp, that Vibrolux...my favorite Fender amp, all things considered. They are really quite loud, I have a pair of G10 Greenbacks in mine and it's still considerably louder than my Deluxe Reverb. Anwhere between 4 and 5 on the knobs, except for verb, and you're good to go. On mine I'm using an LTD SR, Ecstasy, and Mojo Klone...all are cool OD's with the VL. Enjoy!
     
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    I agree that these things are wonderful completely stock.

    I've got a '66 with original gold label Jensens,
    RCA blackplate 6l6's, and RCA cleartop long blackplate
    pre's.

    Volume is usually at 4-5, treble at 10 and bass at 1-2.

    I also have a 1970 Silverface VR that has been blackfaced
    with the same tubes as above but different speakers: a Ragin'
    Cajun and a Copper Head.

    The BF is lyrical and syrupy.

    The SF is punchy with lots of headroom.

    I record with the BF and gig with the SF.

    You are going to love your VR - the best amp Fender ever made [​IMG] !
     

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