I learned something in the last few days...

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  1. Flinx

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    I have been in Nashville for the last few days...Went to the Grand Ole Opry and i finally figured out imo what is wrong with country music these days...The talent is there...saw some youngsters that were unbelievably talented....but the song writing is weak...John Conlee came out and sang a couple of old hits and i realized just how well crafted those older songs were... I just can't get around that....am i wrong?
     
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    They write for the lowest common denominator. That's who is buying country music these days.

    The people who drive down dirt roads in their pickups on the way to drink at the fishing hole where they were baptized after serving in the Army. They're going to meet their girl wearing cut off jeans who likes to drink and play in the mud, and goes to church every week.

    That's the people buying country music, I guess.
     
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    IMO you're not wrong. It's been a long time since I've heard a new country song that I thought even had a small chance of becoming a classic.
     
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    There is a lot of formulaic writing lately.
    Hot lead lick or a Capella chorus tease
    Verse 1
    Pre chorus
    Chorus
    Verse 2
    Pre chorus
    Chorus
    Bridge
    Guitar or fiddle solo over verse
    Pre chorus
    Chorus with arena anthem drums
    Chorus
    Chorus
    Intro lead riff

    Usually using I IV vi V chords in various patterns with ii for the bridge.

    The depth of lyric writing is similarly unimaginative. Pretty girl named "gurl". Truck. Dirt road. Drunk. This old town. Mama taught me. Yada yada.

    I think "yesterday road" by The Great Divide sums it up tastefully. While "country Girl" by Luke Bryan is the epitome of our disdain.
     
  5. Jiffy_Jeff

    Jiffy_Jeff Playin Tunes and Having Fun! Silver Supporting Member

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    That about sums it up right there. It seems to be all about mud, a cold one, driving on a dirt road to meet the girls in cut offs.....etc.
     
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    dont forget the tatoo playing peekaboo on her back.......
     
  7. Flinx

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    Phil Vassar played a set....That dude is one entertaining fellow...GREAT voice...went on youtube and all i heard was autotune $hit...Nothing against him at all...thought he was fantastic without autotune and all that compressed gabage...His albums...SUCK!!! but he is one talented guy!
     
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    Well, the stereotyping is strong here.

    Most of the people who I know that listen to Country have 6 figure incomes, and drive nice cars in the city. Only one has a horse in addition to the above.
     
  9. chrisjw5

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    Or head 6 inches lower to her Sugar Shaker.

    But hey, as someone here one said, Florida-Georgia Line are playing stadiums....
     
  10. bgmacaw

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    There is an antidote....

     
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    You left out picking up Mama at the train after she got out of prison...
     
  12. Jiffy_Jeff

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    Well come out in the sticks and you have the stereotypes above who also listen to country, make 6 figures but drive trucks down those dirt roads.

    Those stereotypes are pretty spot on. At least out here.
     
  13. Flinx

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    Heard the Black Lillies also...What a talent!
     
  14. Trout

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    Some of the newer country is ok,, I kinda dig Ira Deans new stuff.
     
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    Just curious,what song did you hear autotune on? I have seen Phil live probably six times. He's great live, doesnt strike me as an autotune guy. He wrote plenty of hits that "country" artists recorded before he hit big, like My next 30 years for Tim Mcgraw and I'm Alright for Martina. I don't consider him country, he's more like a Tom Petty or John Mellencamp there's just no market for those type of guys anymore except country radio.
     
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    Yes, the 'rap' is much more eloquent. Me...Me....booty...me...bitch...make it rain...my 9.

    And the wonderful whiny men, singing the songs whiny women used to sing. ooh OOH ooh. Whoa WHOA whoa. Oooooh. Tinkle tinkle sob sob.

    And the Cookie Monster. Chug chug.
     
  17. Flinx

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR4Y6Ll0DwA


    I hear autotune...but the guy doesn't need it...e has a huge voice...am i wrong? This is not autotune or am i an old fart that is deaf? Not cutting on the guy at all...he is impressive but his recordings blow....sorry.
     
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    Then who is buying all that wonderful hip-hop, punk and death metal I hear on the radio these days?:worthless
     
  19. Flinx

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    Ok...I give all these youngsters their dues....great voices...great talent...come on TGP and sing their praises....BUT...the songs and recording methods suck ass....ban me...spit on me...whatever!....I toured RCA Studio B where 1000 top ten songs were recorded....Just talent and strong songs that will be remembered for ages to come..... Don't have a snarky answer for it....
     
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