I was able to get a brand new Landgraff DO pedal from a fellow gearpage buddy (fast ricky love) thank you Rich.. This pedal is so much what I was looking for, it does have some kick to it, but it can get really dynamic at the same time.. Between this and my Klon I feel like I don't need anything else.. I do still use my Red Snapper, and Timmy... But the LDO is the best in my stable.. Thanks John Landgraff..