I replaced the stock speaker because...?

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  1. Penguinchit

    Penguinchit Member

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    Don't we all...
     
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  2. buddyboy69

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    Cheap? The Jensen 12 inch alnico I bought was $227.... cheap would be $75 to me and no speakers are under $100.
     
  3. amoodymule

    amoodymule Silver Supporting Member

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    I once read on these pages, that Mike Soldano stated that speaker change is more evident than tube swapping. It has been quite a few years, and owning one of his amps for almost 20 years, ...well, :dunno

    I've had fun changing speakers :beer
     
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  4. Timbre Wolf

    Timbre Wolf GoldMember Supporter Gold Supporting Member

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    I agree about the speaker changes, even though I can also attest that select tube changes can also boldly alter an amp's character.
     
  5. slide13

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    I learned today how big a difference speakers can make. I’ve swapped some tubes around before and never heard much of a change (typical JK, Tung Sol, etc type tubes...haven’t gone down the NOS rabbit hole so maybe I’d hear it then), but speaker change, that was easy to hear.

    I picked up a used Carr Impala recently for a good price. Great amp, big fat tone, but I found it lacking in highs a little and the mid quality just wasn’t what I’m used to hearing. Now, it’s one of those things I may get used to and I’m going to give it a bit, but this morning I plugged the amp into my 1x12 cab with an Eminences Legend 1258. This is a speaker I know and love ever since I first tried it in a Victoria Ivy League. I then got one for my Lil Dawg Superdawg head and put it into this 1x12 cab. When I plugged the Carr into that, boom....there was the sound I wanted. Instantly the highs had a little more clarity and definition, the mids were just as I like them. So, no full on speaker swap yet and maybe the cab accounts for a little of that....but I’m betting it’s 90% the speaker.

    I’m going to give the stock Carr Elsinore a thorough trial period, maybe I’ll grow to love it.....but if not I’ll just swap out to the Legend 1258 I know I like and I’m betting it’ll be perfect.
     
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  6. No_Stairway

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    I swapped a 16ohm Sheffield 1230 from a Peavey 112E cab with a 8ohm Greenback for less lowend. It was the best answer for the cab.
     
  7. wetordry

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    I put a celestion gold in a super champ xd and it was good.
    Stock speaker was ok, but it really had no chance in that comparison....not even close.
    I did it because I think it's a nice little amp.
     
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    The Louis Columbia is the first amp I didn't have the urge to replace the OEM speaker in, in some 45 years. Looking for another Jupiter 12LC for an ext cab.
     
  9. Jr Deluxe

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    Because TGP said i had to or i was a dork. Same reason i sold all my pedals and got new ones that did the same thing. Same reason i ditched my tube amp for solid state. Then modeling. Then tube again. Its like being addicted to plastic surgey. I cant stop and im getting uglier.
     
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  10. supersoldier71

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    My Jet City combo was a good amp held back by a bad speaker, and since a WGS Retro 30 came with it, I installed it. Fire breathing low watt monster now.

    My DC3 sounded dark and kinda muddy. Also replaced that with a Retro 30 but I overshot the mark a bit this time.

    I’ll try again.

    Been thinking of swapping some neodymium speakers into my 410 combo, but that would be pricey.
     
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  11. NatGardner

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    Because I thought a combo amp was a bit too bright and I read in Guitar Player mag that it may be the speaker. This was before the internet. Then I realized that my guitar has a tone control for a reason.
     
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    Even though I read the words, I still swapped tubes as much as the wallet allowed, and swapped speakers, curiosity killed the cat, and it was an enlightening experience :crazy
     
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  13. LPMojoGL

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    Replaced the alnico with in my DRRi, because the G12h30 is better.
    A v30 might be even better.
     
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  14. Haruki

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    Not mine, but an '85 VOX AC30TBR. The stock speakers were from Fane.

    [​IMG]

    I bought a then new '87 model. I thought something was "missing".
    In 1987, I didn't know that The Celestion Alnico Blue was an essential component to the classic/original VOX sound. Furthermore, Celestion stopped making them in ~1970.

    Anyway...

    I was influenced by a Celestion Vintage 30s (V30s) advertisement re: The big guitar sound of the 60s". Those were pre-internet days ('87), and information about the best tubes and speaker for that amp wasn't easy to find. I was lucky because the V30s were a high-power, ceramic magnet speaker, based on the Celestion Blue alnico. Co/Cobalt at that time, was prohibitively expensive.

    [​IMG]

    Celestion and VOX would reissue (1993; after about 23 years), the essential Blue alnico and, a closer specification reissue amplifier, respectively, based on the '63 top boost.

    [​IMG]
     
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  15. NoGlassNoClass

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    Yes I missed out on this upgrade when it was still available. I will do my absolute best to blow the V30s so I feel justified in replacing them. But a dozen? Ouch. Maybe Ill just blow the wet cabs and keep the stock speaks on the dry...tonal variety? Thats what Ill tell my "financial advisor"
     
  16. Telfer

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    Imagine if every amp came with an integrated seven band graphic equalizer.
    There would be a lot fewer speaker switcha-roos.
     
  17. Timbre Wolf

    Timbre Wolf GoldMember Supporter Gold Supporting Member

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    Unfortunately, this is untrue. It’s not equivalent.
     
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  18. ChampReverb

    ChampReverb Silver Supporting Member

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    Well, I went through a boatload of speaker swaps over 10+ years questing for either “more this” or “less that” in different amps, and I have a bunch of amps.

    However, since I bought a Fromel Shape EQ pedal I have found that I have been able to make several less than ideal speakers “just work” without having to buy a new speaker.

    So, I only buy replacement speakers very occasionally these days, and only recently for grab and go small amps for smaller situations where I am unlikely to bring a pedalboard (with an EQ pedal).

    -bEn r.
     
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  19. HeavyCream

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    Certainly sometimes folks are too quick to ditch the stock speaker. The thing is, even though manufacturers often engineer a speaker to “match” an amp, not everyone has the same taste.

    If you buy a mass produced amp, more often than not, a speaker swap will get you a better sounding amp to your ears.

    Another reason to swap speakers is efficiency. This is a big one for me. I like speakers with low efficiency but some guys might need a little more volume.

    I do think an EQ pedal is a great tool. I use one all the time but EQ can’t change the feel or the headroom of an amp the way a speaker can.
     
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  20. Rotten

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    They are cheaper than amps and guitars and I find them all the time used. I also sell the ones I don’t keep, although shipping costs have become a problem.
     

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