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wetordry

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Put a lid on that vh band and go do another group with some other players.
Join someone else's thing....whatever.

He's s huge draw, but wears the albatross.
But...its his choice.
 

I Am Misery

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Simply an inaccurate statement.
i was thinking of adding "(at least not usually in a good way)" after that. like with KISS.

for myself, i'd say that hearing the Misfits/Samhain/Danzig was a "life changing experience", but i've seen the bad that can come from it. they opened me up to so much other music (early rock n' roll, Motown, punk rock, all that old stuff) and showed me that "pop" lyrics could be literary genius. for what they were doing, there was no equal. i don't think i've met any other Misfits fans who had the same "reaction". i see a lot of people stuck listening to some really bad music. cheap imitation "horror rock" bands (or even the "new" Misfits), looking to get their fix from that. buying every latest Danzig album or excited about the recent reunion, and not realizing/caring that the magic is just gone. there is no going back.

EVH has this same "stunting" effect on people.
 

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Eddie was a offstage guest at the Black Sabbath the End tour. He seems to still get along with Tony Iommi but I doubt they see each other often. Plus Eddie may be thankful that Black Sabbath chose them to open for them which would have been their first big stadium tour. Eddie just doesn't seem to get along with people close to him that aren't direct family.

In terms of playing style, it almost seems like he left his heavy guitar dominant style that he had up until Fair Warning and slowly let it become less intense and to me it seemed like they were trying to get a more pop type sound - even adding keyboards. I was trying to play the cool riff to Mean Street a few days ago going from memory as I haven't heard the song in years. It's not really hard but I like how it can be powerful and heavy it is. I got most of it but I would need to hear it again to see if I was playing it right.
 

vortexxxx

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i was thinking of adding "(at least not usually in a good way)" after that. like with KISS.

for myself, i'd say that hearing the Misfits/Samhain/Danzig was a "life changing experience", but i've seen the bad that can come from it. they opened me up to so much other music (early rock n' roll, Motown, punk rock, all that old stuff) and showed me that "pop" lyrics could be literary genius. for what they were doing, there was no equal. i don't think i've met any other Misfits fans who had the same "reaction". i see a lot of people stuck listening to some really bad music. cheap imitation "horror rock" bands (or even the "new" Misfits), looking to get their fix from that. buying every latest Danzig album or excited about the recent reunion, and not realizing/caring that the magic is just gone. there is no going back.

EVH has this same "stunting" effect on people.
When they reunited with Dave, I didn't go because I thought seeing them would damage the memory of the fair Warning tour I saw. They could never do that kind of performance again. All the clips I seen were subdued in playing and no crazy energy like that early tour.
 

I Am Misery

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When they reunited with Dave, I didn't go because I thought seeing them would damage the memory of the fair Warning tour I saw. They could never do that kind of performance again. All the clips I seen were subdued in playing and no crazy energy like that early tour.
right on. i try to avoid a wake (even for my closest relatives) if at all possible, i'd rather not have the memory of them propped up in some casket.
 

sws1

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...buy the Harmony Central backup tapes, and then restore/re-open that monstrous 'teeth' thread. (I'm laughing just thinking about it.)
 

TheGuildedAge

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I would argue that Nirvana/Cobain didn't do as much as people think , to me they did nothing.
I definitely don't agree with this. If you think of the real cream of the crop of music and how they changed history: culturally and musically, the real innovators, trendsetters, cultural explosion type bands, Nirvana's peers are Elvis, Michael Jackson, the Beatles, and Madonna type artists. Nirvana killed an entire genre that came before it and started a new one after.

Van Halen was great for their time but they turned into a nostalgia act that is less relevant by the day.
 

I Am Misery

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I definitely don't agree with this. If you think of the real cream of the crop of music and how they changed history: culturally and musically, the real innovators, trendsetters, cultural explosion type bands, Nirvana's peers are Elvis, Michael Jackson, the Beatles, and Madonna type artists. Nirvana killed an entire genre that came before it and started a new one after.

Van Halen was great for their time but they turned into a nostalgia act that is less relevant by the day.
really, i'd say that Van Halen had a similar effect. they really did change things when they hit and ended up creating their own culture. a complete dead-end sort of thing, but still.
 

TheGuildedAge

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really, i'd say that Van Halen had a similar effect. they really did change things when they hit and ended up creating their own culture. a complete dead-end sort of thing, but still.
You know I actually thought about editing my post to say this. Van Halen was a huge cultural band. It's just that their staying power faded quickly.

For the record, I am a huge Vh fan and don't care for Nirvana much.

I am as surprised as anyone.

My small sample size is the guitar club I run at my high school. In 17 years, this is the first year I ever had a kid ask, "can you show me how to play Eruption?"

The "older" bands kids seem to still like are Guns N Roses, Zeppelin, Green Day, and Nirvana.
 

LeicaBossNJ

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What if your mom was like "you were much more interesting as a baby and I want you to eat pureed peas and use a diaper again."

People grow up. Let them.
 

BlueRiff

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… never tap, squeal harmonically, or dive bomb again. Instead, put out an album showing the other side of your playing including some clean funky stuff like Top Jimmy, Finish what you Started, and awesome chording work like Little Guitars and Summer Nights Intro - show us the rhythm and funk side of EVH. We've only seen 10%-20% of what this cat can do! Drop all the squealy deweedle-dee crap - you got way more in the tank than that!!
 

Old Guy

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Ferchrissakes, it was just a joke... lighten up...
Nothing funny about fat shaming, dude. Some people struggle with that their whole lives. Present company included. Lighten up? How about having some empathy? Oh, wait. This is TGP. Never mind.
 

Old Guy

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...continue not giving a flying f*** what anybody else wishes he’d do/did/done. #itsonlyrocknroll
The thing is, all he does is seem to complain about everyone and everything. Great, you want to stomp on your legacy and fade away? Fantastic! Just STFU about it already, LOL.
 

jerrycampbell

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I'm confused.
EVH didn't actually write songs, correct?
He wrote riffs that others turned into songs, at least that's my understanding.
In that case, he needs someone to work with.
 

BlueRiff

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When they reunited with Dave, I didn't go because I thought seeing them would damage the memory of the fair Warning tour I saw. They could never do that kind of performance again. All the clips I seen were subdued in playing and no crazy energy like that early tour.
I get it. If a classic artist has new material out and genuinely seems like they're trying to push forward and still applying themselves, I'll check them out. If they're doing vaudeville approximation of the olden days reaching into the boomers' (me included) wallets before they croak , nah....
 




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