Identify this Effect/Type of Delay?

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  1. coldwaternights

    coldwaternights Member

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    So, Incubus has a new single out and i've always liked their guitarist, he's very creative.

    It sounds like he's using a delay that has some kind of dynamic effect to it that reacts to when he's playing........like it's real stuttery and then when he stops playing, it slowly slows down.
    It reminds me of how some tremolo's do that.

    Anyone know of a delay that does this?

    Here's the song:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fokXZUn6VAA#t=150
     
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    wow, no replies, huh.

    Surely there's a delay out there that does this that i'm not thinking of?
     
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    Cool effect. Maybe the Red Panda Particle? OR a delay that can accept an expression pedal in for the time? I don't know if you can ramp the time on the Particle like that, but it sounds like there is more going on there than just a delay. HEXE Revolver or Spacetime Resonator perhaps?
     
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    Where exactly is the effect? At the very end it sounds like synths.

    Like the dirty bass tone.
     
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    Ahh, now I hear it. It starts about 30 seconds in. Your link jumped into the middle of the song so I was listening for it there.

    Maybe a squarewave tremolo type effect with expression pedal input for slowing it down. Or, as you say, it works dynamically.
     
  6. coldwaternights

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    Yeah but that's not a tremolo in the song.

    If you listen to the whole song, it's in it throughout.

    It's clearly a delay.
    It sounds like a multi tap delay that he's controlling somehow.
    It's one thing to slow down the time on a delay......but that usually results in the pitching bending effect.

    This sounds different, like the delay time is slowing down as he stops playing and there is no pitch shift.
     
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    AXEnGEAR4J Supporting Member

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    My thoughts exactly
     
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    From what I remember on the last album, Mike Einziger has a Boss RV-3 Reverb Delay, EHX Deluxe Memory Man, Danelectro Reel Echo, EHX Holy Grail Nano and a EHX Micro POG. All those effects he could have used through out this song. I am not 100% if he got any new pedals since 2011.
     
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    There's something for you to think about.
     
  10. coldwaternights

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    haha, ok, so no one knows what the effect is.

    I'm not sure why the link starts the song half way in.


    Anyway.............i've never heard this type of delay before.

    You can hear the echo slightly slow down on the guitar around 30 seconds in.
    It's weird.........and it's not tremolo.
    You can hear it every time he plays that cool riff.........starts up again around 1:40.
    It's like a multi tap but it slows down in a cool way along with his playing.

    Anyway.
    I guess no one knows.
     
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    sounds like he's backing off the delay time with an expression pedal.
     
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    I thought the same thing, and there are many delays out there that will do this. Moog (big and small)
    Strymon
    Eventide
    etc...
     
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    I'll third that.
     
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    I call studio shenanigans. Has anyone heard him do it live? It could be done with a xp pedal, but not without the pitch warble, afaik.
     
  16. MogwaiBoy

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    You're right it does sound more like delay than tremolo (ie: Vzex Sonar which has ramping up/down modes) because as it slows down it seems like you can hear it being held (infinite repeats) and pitched down/sampled like a digital delay.

    You can hear at 1:28 it sweeps upwards (notes shortening, speed increasing), then on the very next instance 10 seconds later at 1:38 it descends. This makes me agree with previous posters that it's probably just a digital delay with expression pedal input connected to the Time (rate) control.

    If you want to branch out, there is a pedal that is especially cool for rhythmic patterns.. the Boss Slicer.
     
  17. coldwaternights

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    The problem with the expression pedal theory is that most delays pitch shift when you change the time on the them with an expression pedal, no?

    And this seems to respond to his playing.....it slows down when he finishes the riff.

    I've never heard a delay slow down that........there's always pitch shifting or some other weird artifact involved.
     

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