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So, too loud band. That's not going to change unless I quit. Double-edged sword - great band, great player, great people, great pay, great to crappy venues, etc. IOW it's really the best steady paying gig I've ever had and the typical band hassles are well outweighed by the good stuff.
Right now I'm just wearing heavy duty earplugs -26 db - shooters plugs.
I've considered IEMs.
Here are my concerns:
Money. It seems like even the cheapest one that's "actually any good" based on reviews and feedback is $1,000.
Another concern is that there's going to be stage volume. The drummer is simply not going to play quietly. It's off the table so don't even go there. Again, my choice is to quit or to figure out a personal solution.
With my plugs in, I can hear things still, and low frequencies still seem to get through - I imagine some of that literally vibrates through your skeleton/body and is transferred to your ear.
So I'm thinking if I were to get an in ear system, it would have to block out almost 100% of external sound as much as possible, so I can turn up the volume of what I want to a *reasonable* level.
My fear is, if I'm hearing drums and bass through the natural world, I'm going to have to turn up my guitar, keys, and anything else I want loud enough to mix in well with them, which might ultimately be louder than is comfortable.
I know I've heard people say IEMS don't work unless the whole band buys into it - and that makes perfect sense. But I'm wondering if anyone has tried to run "partial" IEMS with success?
Could I get by with running just some of the FOH signal into my monitors, rather than everything? If I'm getting acoustical bleed from bass and drums, I wouldn't need them in the monitors would I?
I don't want to put any more volume into the in ears than I have to, otherwise it's defeating the purpose - it's not so I can hear, it's so I can hear at safe levels. If that won't work, I might as well just use the $6.00 earplugs.
A lot of people have recommended the custom molded earplugs, but there's another $300 on top of the wireless system.
I can't really make that kind of investment and if I'm able to, it's got to work. I can't be fiddling with having to add on this, and try this instead kind of situations.
Currently I run only my voice and my keys through my monitor. My guitar amp is it's own monitor. I'd have no problem backing it down a number. The drums I can hear two doors down. The bass is not a problem (it only comes through FOH on stage and that's all I need!).
I can turn down my amp to the point where I can run it in the IEM at a comfortable volume that's louder than the ambient sound of the amp (I think). The keys and my voice wouldn't even have to be on stage anymore (except for other players who need it in their wedges).
But I guess, really what I'm asking, is how much external sound can I get rid of, and only put what I want in the IEMs, and, if there's external sound I can't get totally rid of, can I run the sounds I do want in the IEMs at a comfortable and safe level?
Right now I'm just wearing heavy duty earplugs -26 db - shooters plugs.
I've considered IEMs.
Here are my concerns:
Money. It seems like even the cheapest one that's "actually any good" based on reviews and feedback is $1,000.
Another concern is that there's going to be stage volume. The drummer is simply not going to play quietly. It's off the table so don't even go there. Again, my choice is to quit or to figure out a personal solution.
With my plugs in, I can hear things still, and low frequencies still seem to get through - I imagine some of that literally vibrates through your skeleton/body and is transferred to your ear.
So I'm thinking if I were to get an in ear system, it would have to block out almost 100% of external sound as much as possible, so I can turn up the volume of what I want to a *reasonable* level.
My fear is, if I'm hearing drums and bass through the natural world, I'm going to have to turn up my guitar, keys, and anything else I want loud enough to mix in well with them, which might ultimately be louder than is comfortable.
I know I've heard people say IEMS don't work unless the whole band buys into it - and that makes perfect sense. But I'm wondering if anyone has tried to run "partial" IEMS with success?
Could I get by with running just some of the FOH signal into my monitors, rather than everything? If I'm getting acoustical bleed from bass and drums, I wouldn't need them in the monitors would I?
I don't want to put any more volume into the in ears than I have to, otherwise it's defeating the purpose - it's not so I can hear, it's so I can hear at safe levels. If that won't work, I might as well just use the $6.00 earplugs.
A lot of people have recommended the custom molded earplugs, but there's another $300 on top of the wireless system.
I can't really make that kind of investment and if I'm able to, it's got to work. I can't be fiddling with having to add on this, and try this instead kind of situations.
Currently I run only my voice and my keys through my monitor. My guitar amp is it's own monitor. I'd have no problem backing it down a number. The drums I can hear two doors down. The bass is not a problem (it only comes through FOH on stage and that's all I need!).
I can turn down my amp to the point where I can run it in the IEM at a comfortable volume that's louder than the ambient sound of the amp (I think). The keys and my voice wouldn't even have to be on stage anymore (except for other players who need it in their wedges).
But I guess, really what I'm asking, is how much external sound can I get rid of, and only put what I want in the IEMs, and, if there's external sound I can't get totally rid of, can I run the sounds I do want in the IEMs at a comfortable and safe level?