If I didnt like the Menatone Howie would I not like the Barber Burn Unit?

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  1. therhodeo

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    The Howie was probably the worst gear purchase I've ever made. I couldnt wait to get it off my board. How similar is the Burn Unit? I play a huge variety of music and basically I'm looking for a nice smooth lead sound. I don't care how dumble like it is. Just smooth and sustaining.

    My guitars: FMT Telecaster, Peavey HP EXP, 79' SG, Baja Tele
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    I hated the Howie as well. It obliterated my guitar sound. The Burn Unit is night & day. It can be set to be as transparent as you want, and can get some seriously smooth sustain. Great pedal. :AOK
     
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    Thanks. Yeah I own a King of the Brits and thought the Howie would be at least as good. Wrong. Farty bass, glitchy noises on sustained notes, etc. I was amazed at its crappiness.
     
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    BUEQ is very smmoth... Let's your harmonic overtones shine through... The Dynamics control is fantastic and the pedal is versitle with both single coils and humbuckers...
     
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    Very good to know.
     
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    I hear ya man. I didn't "get" it either.

    FWIW, the Barber Tone Pump EQ is also an amazing overdrive pedal if you want smooth & transparent. The Burn Unit rules as well. Different league than the Howie, to these ears anyway, 100%. :cool:
     
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    I don't care for the overdrive channel on the Howie but I have been running my Eternity and Zendrive through channel one set real clean and the tone is f%##%g amazing! I was just about to sell my Howie when I figured this out so this pedal is definitely a keeper.
     
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    Paying for 2 other $300 dollar pedals to have a reason to keep the third $300 pedal is a little out of the question for me. Also I dont want to keep a pedal the size of the howie on my board unless all of its getting used.
     
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    Glad to see others didn't dig the Howie. I thought it was going to be the temple of all pedals but I couldn't stand it. If a Dumble amp sounds like that then I ll not take out the second mortgage on the house.

    Since I am into the Vox thing lately I would like to try their AC30 in a box, or whatever its called. I have been quite content with my Fulltone Full Drive 2 and the OCD but of course always looking for the next best thing.
     
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    I love my King of the Brits and would really like to try the Top Boost in a Can.
     
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    Hey why not one of you guys sell me your Howie then.:D I'm one who has to try it myself.:BOUNCE
     
  12. slopeshoulder

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    did you guys try the new howie? the 8 knobber? Best pedal I've ever heard!!!!
     
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    The burn unit can be set kind of like a robben ford tone, but it can do a lot more, including the higher gain tube screamer-ish thing.
     
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    At what settings? Got mine right here. The clean boost, dumble and marshall tones are pretty easy to dial in. Not so sure about a ts thou.
     
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    I'm not that familiar with Robben Ford's work, what's a good tune to use to get a feel for this fabled tone?

    and my 2 cents is howie=good. I have the 8 knob version.
    But from what you guys say i would like to check out the Barber stuff too, i think it's cheaper anyway.
     
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    Make that 7 knobs and an EQ switch - the Howie
     
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    I had the newest version of the howie. I've had lots of cheap pedals and I'd rather play through a DS-1 and Bad Monkey than have the Howie on my board.
     
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    I think the new Howie only has 7 knobs actually, unless he's already unleashed another one. Personally, I love the tone of the 6 knob PTP hand wired one. Sounds much more natural and amplike. It's funny, I never saw this much "Howie bashing" before. I hope everyone's talking about the new one because the old Howie sounds perfect to me. I don't experience any "farty" bass whatsoever from the pedal. As far as the Barber pedal goes, like most Barber pedals, I think it's good, but not great. IMO Lovepedals and all Menatones (yes Howie included) are a step above the Barbers. I'm not saying Barbers are bad, they just sound a little non-distinct to me to be honest. A little lackluster when compared to most other boutique pedals.
     
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    I believe mine was about 5 knobs and I DID have the glitches and farty bass as described by another Forumite. I at the time owned a Fulldrive 2, trying to get as close to my Mesa MKIIC+ sound as I could get in a pedal, and was looking for the Holly Shootski of all OD pedals. I still use the FD-2 alot. The (whatever vintage) Howie lasted about half a gig. My band-mates also noticed the difference too.

    I am glad you said Howie Bashing and not Menatone bashing. I have not had a chance to try their other pedals and am keeping an open mind.
     
  20. Tonefish

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    Do you own the old one? And are you interested in another?
     

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