Discussion in 'Guitars in General' started by Buduranus2, Aug 26, 2017.
Go be poor somewhere else
Both my Gold Top and my Casino have what would describe as a "D" shape profile 43mm wide and about the same depth as my Tele necks which are actually a soft "V" and a bit deeper than a typical "C". They certainly have more "grip" to them than some SG necks I've played which seem very slim to me. Gibson seems to label neck profiles as something a bit different than I experience them as.
I'm a thumb up guitar player and a bassist as well so I prefer a little more heft and grip on my necks. The Epi necks seem fine to me. Play one and see what you think.
I have, and what Epi describes as slim taper and/or slim taper D is too small for me.
I like big necks too. Some of the Epiphone Traditional Pro Les Pauls have had a big, round, satin finish neck, but also some also slim necks so you just have to feel them in person. All of the LTD Edition 1955 Custom with P90's have a big neck.
OK then an Epi doesn't work for you. My Tele necks are actually narrower at the nut (42mm) than the Epi neck so I don't don't find them any smaller than my others but you prefer even wider fatter necks. Feel is everything so we all play what works best.
Price is equated with quality. If they only made cheaper guitars people would see the company as a lesser-quality manufacturer, which would hurt their brand.
The Custom Shop guitars are definitely better, it's up to you if the difference in price is worth it.
Les Paul Jr. was $99 in 1958 and the Gibson Custom shop ones are $4300
It goes to reason that larger manufacturing ability and progress in technology would have better guitars, for less money. We see the opposite in many things however (especially with Gibson guitars), part of this is inflation calculators are wildly out of whack with reality.
I wonder if people on car forums complain about the prices of BMWs, Jaguars, etc.
Clearly anyone that spends more than $15k or $20k on a car has more money than sense.
What does a clean, original '58 Junior cost right now?
Man, those $250,000 Ferrari 488GTB's are crazy overpriced. A 250GT was only $12,000 new, in '61.
Some pretty amazing prices here
Lowest I've seen in a while
This is a pretty amazing brand New Trad for just $2,029
(And all wood)
Classic for under 2 grand
Standards starting at $2,429
(Standards were almost 4 grand not too many years back)
If you actually thought this way, this thread never would've been started.......
I wonder about the "why" of many things; this doesn't make that list.
What do I have to do with whether or not this thread was started? I'm not the OP.
I simply began by suggesting one of many alternatives to complaining about Gibson's pricing and I do believe players should play whatever they like.
You were second and I didn't scroll all the way up. I got all disorientated by seeing the Epi is 90% of a Historic thing. My bad.
My thinking is that simply allowing for the rate of inflation on guitar prices from 1959 is not enough to cover increased labor and materials costs, not to mention electricity, rent, and other necessary manufacturing cost increases.
Thought that might have been it.
You know there may have been a time when I was more part of a herd mentality but anymore when I see so many good choices out there from so many sources I really do feel guys should take advantage of that and play what they love. And if that happens to be a $3500 Gibby well then pony up and pay the price because they never seem to go lower. LOL
I just mentioned Epi because they're Gibby's kissin' cousin and because I play them so I'm more familiar with what they are and what they are not. But there's at least a dozen or more alternatives to Gibsons that are also great guitars including some Ibanez models I've played. But I've also owned and played a lot of top shelf Gibson guitars and basses over the years too.
These days what I enjoy most is finding lower cost gear that sounds amazingly good for it's price.
Some of the Epiphones are very nice but I've really embraced this in the Fender world. Nothing "higher" than AVRI, with my sights more set on the Squier CV line. A J Mascis JM was the catalyst.
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