I'm looking for a Muff with a dirty amp.

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  1. rotlung

    rotlung Member

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    I recently sold a Hoof and a Pharaoh because they didn't do the trick. The Pharaoh was too dark and the Hoof wasn't tweakabke enough. It didn't fit my amp, a Rockerverb MKII. I'm looking for a Muff style pedal to stack on a crunchy signal to get those Dinosaur Jr style sounds at certain times, but with enough tweak ability to cut through. I want to be able to switch on the Muff in a certain part of a song without it sounding like the guitar has recessed back in the mix. I want that Muffy hair around the notes without the subdued highs and mids. Is this possible? What pedal should I look into? I've had my eye in the Blackout Blunderbuss or Musket for awhile, held off because they seem bright but perhaps that's exactly what's needed. I'm not looking for a recreation of a certain era Muff but rather something that could work with my setup to get usable results for my music, which is in that Dino Jr, Husker Du realm.
     
  2. PlexiFuzz

    PlexiFuzz I know karate. Voodoo, too.

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    I play a Basic Audio Alter Destiny into a pretty dirty amp. Works perfectly. Classic muff tones and all the tweakability you could want. It's definitely my favorite muff pedal I've owned.
     
  3. Empros

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    +1. It works so well into a dirty amp because it's so tweakable.
    I recorded these clips into a (mostly) dirty amp. I did make the amp cleaner for some parts, but it was mainly dirty (plexi-style amp).

     
  4. PlexiFuzz

    PlexiFuzz I know karate. Voodoo, too.

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    dshobe Rocky Mountain Way Silver Supporting Member

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    Empros, that was great! Loved the more compressed tone in the second song, thanks for sharing!
     
  7. la noise

    la noise Supporting Member

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    Does J Masics, technically, run a Muff into a "dirty amp."

    I never know what people mean by "dirty." Plexi with a little
    hair is way different than JCM800 "dirty" which is way
    different from Rockerverb MKII "dirty."

    Doesn't JM have a somewhat unconventional setup. I believe he has
    used a Tube-Driver to bring the volume down on his clean tone (which
    will have some grit in it from the TD), so that when he hits a
    Muff he doesn't experience that perceived volume drop that you
    can get with Muffs, in general.

    Here's a cool interview with KitRae that JM did, if you'd like some
    more insight into his "live" setup.

    Also, what can be accomplished recording with a "Muff" is not often the same set
    of challenges that are presented when using a "Muff" live and getting it to not overly
    compress and distort an already "dirty" amp---and in such a way that you don't get
    that sense of volume drop when engaging the pedal.

    http://www.kitrae.net/music/J_Mascis_Big_Muff_2.html


     
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  8. markjsmith

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    +1 on the Alter Destiny (likely my next purchase). I had the Basic Audio Tourbox and loved it!!!!

    Here's a link to some demos I did with it!

    https://soundcloud.com/markjsmith/sets/basic-audio-demos

    Can be really versatile as well getting into OD territory as well as the classic fuzzy Muff sound!
     
  9. Empros

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    This is a great point! Plexi dirty, to me, is a nice light to medium gain sound, which is what I use. No where the JCM800 cranked gain dirty sound.
     
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    Agreed, great tone, and playing!
     
  11. onebigholiday

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    Wren and Cuff has quite a few options... I had a Hoof and now own a Violet World and it's as bad ass as a fuzz gets. I believe that J Mascis has used quite a few Wren and Cuff pedals.
     
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    Gotta recommend the Catalinbread Manx Loaghtan. I love mine and it is definitely tweakable. I almost always run mine into a slightly dirty amp, and love the results.
     
  13. Empros

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    :beer
     
  14. PlexiFuzz

    PlexiFuzz I know karate. Voodoo, too.

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    Agreed, very good point. My Fargen has three modes: JTM45, Plexi, JCM800. I use all three and the Alter Destiny is tweakable enough to allow this no matter how dirty the amp is --- even super gained up in JCM800 mode. It has a very effective fuzz knob that sounds great across its entire range.
     
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  15. SirGilmour

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    No. Your amp will explode.
     
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    I want to check this out.
     
  17. cbm

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    At the risk of piling on, the Basic Audio Alter-Destiny is the ****. I have a lot of muffs, but this one is my favorite, by far.
     

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