Inaugurated the ISO for live usage....

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  1. Ed DeGenaro

    Ed DeGenaro Supporting Member

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    I've been recording with 2 Demeter iso cabs for years now.
    And usually my stage volume is - lets call it- FREAKIN' LOUD.
    That said every time my Country gig does Casinos the volume restrictions there are always off the hook. I was fine with running a THD 212 with Celestion 65s and having the volume down. But I figured since we're doing the same casino 5 Saturdays straight I'll try and play nice.
    So I dragged the iso out yesterday. It was super weird not having any SPL from behind, felt like I was recording but the tone was happening. For non-casino gigs I think I may just run that with a 2x12.
     
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    ButchR Komet Player Gold Supporting Member

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    Yeah...........I've been using one live for a while now. Once you get adjusted to not having the sound hit you, it's acutally pretty good tone wise. You can crank the amp to the sweet spot without offending the soundman.

    Surprising how much these really help with stage volume. For a while, I was running a Komet through one with the volume at 3 o'clock. I kept looking around to see if anyone was gonna say something and no one even noticed.
     
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    ya it's weird at first having no cab behind you, huh? My solution was run a powered full range back there and then get some in my wedge too for a nice balance... it was more comfortable playing like that...
     
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    I have used a home built iso @ Church running a 71' Marshall 50 watter at near full tilt .. weird indeed.. I had to open it up just to make sure it was working! Having to rely on wedges for your tone can take some getting used to especially if you are dealing with the "stage volume police" Much more comfy with my band .. Club 40 cranked enough to shake my pants
     
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    That's a cool idea, thanks. The other thing that was weird was this was the first time I had monitors sunk in the floors. Way less cutting then on foot level it seemed.
     
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    ya the further away they get from your ears...... I like em at foot level.
     
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    So....do these kill the sound enough that you hear NOTHING from them, and must have monitors?
     
  8. Ed DeGenaro

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    With nothing else playing you still hear...like when somebody plays in the room next door. But, yes...essentially it'll dampen it enough that without monitors you're screwed.
     
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    I've been using my demeter iso cab for about 3 years now at my church. It was a tone saver! I find that the sound guys are much more appreciative when I haul this into a gig. I can get my tone and they have the freedom to turn me up in the mains!
     
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    Does the full range behind you just receive the full signal coming from FOH or a personalized mix, like your wedge?

    Also, if you run an iso cab that is mic'ed into the mains as well as a cab onstage behind you as typical, would the volume coming from the cab be lower, due to splitting the signal between two cabs? I would think it would work the same way as using a dummy load in addition to your cab to lower the volume coming out of the cab. Make sense?
     
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    The idea in using the Iso cab. is to elimate stage SPL of your guitar. FOH handles what the audience will hear, but unless you use earbuds, you'll most likely being turning up the floor monitor. Try running IEM, I think you'll be surprised how much better you can hear yourself as well as play better.
     
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    I use a home made ISO setup for my church gig with a loud 50 watt nmv Reinhardt. It took a couple of weeks to get used too, but was worth if for me in the end. I get that great cranked marshall sound and my band gets to keep their hearing. A good tradeoff. The mains do the work and the music is much tighter for it.

    edit: I use a Shure IEM setup with a stage mixer and love it.
     
  13. Ed DeGenaro

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    the problem with casinos is spl's blowing off the stage, they don't care how much i blow dry my hair with wedges. :)
     

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