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Discussion in 'Effects, Pedals, Strings & Things' started by cheapgtrs, Jul 24, 2016.
Well I got my Echo Degrader and all I can say is wow. It covers alot of the same ground as my DMM, but does so much more. I do a lot of experimental music and this thing is great for that. Can do chewed tape sounds, loops, lofI echos, white noise, oscillations among other things. I'll definitely be interested to see what Andrew does next.
I had a RM1N and a Echo Degrader, I should've kept both, they were both very awesome and unique. Easy and awesome to make weird, murky, dreamy noises with them. Andrew was awesome to deal with for an issue with one (lightbulb went out).
I think there is a ton of hype and desire for these FWIW, I've never sold pedals as fast as when listing those two on reverb, both got snatched up within about 10 minutes of the ad going up.
I guess the 'issue' I had with them was I felt they each wanted to be played alone. And not in a way like they didn't work with other pedals, but the unique character they gave to the signal kind of demanded singular attention. It probably would've been smarter to just keep those two and ditched all my other pedals...
Yeah. I've had people make offers on the Echo Degrader, Rm1n and the 4046 after hearing them. They're not going anywhere. I'm on the lookout for an Incinerator next.
RM-1N owner here.
just acquired one this year.
The low reverb setting with the pregain, creates this haze-sounding reverb....
beckons me to a smoked filled, corn-whiskey stained bar room in the back woods ... or is it in Berlin....
It truly covers a lot of ground...
I've often thought, that if you had to take just one pedal, the RM-1N could be it....
Guitar, Amp and RM-1N you could cover a lot of ground with this combo.
I've had my RM-1N for just under a year and while it's not a mainstay on my board, each time I take it out it ends up birthing several new musical ideas... and isn't that what it's all about?!
I love how it can go from nasty grungy to dreamy. When set a certain way I get this awesome sound that makes it seem as if though whatever I'm playing into it is coming out of an old record player spinning some warped vinyl.
When I first reached out to Andrew (who's local to me) I placed an order for the ED, but changed it to the RM-1N after reading some less-than-favourable reviews of the ED. Like the RM-1N, the ED is an acquired taste and I'll be ordering one next, very soon- just 'cause it didn't appeal to some people doesn't mean it won't appeal to me. Having had some time with the reverb, I get a good vibe for what Andrew's sonic mission is and it's right up my alley. He's one of the only people I know that's owned/worked on multiple Schumann PLL's, the pedal on which his 4046 is loosely based. I sold my PLL last year and am eager to get a 4046 of my own to help fill that void.
Awesome stuff; wishing there was more stuff like this out there...
Here's a cool photo of my RM-1N I took a couple months back...
care to share a pic showing your setting for this sound? seems glorious and i'm eager to try it out!
Yeah please do share @lavinci, I think I do something similar, would be great to compare notes ayyyyy
I completely adore my RM-1N. It's one of the early production, big box acid etched ones and it sounds ****ing A+. Sold a SPACE for mine and I've never regretted it once.
The rm1n really is quite incredible. I love how it goes from this beautiful, light, washy reverb to full blown nuclear holocaust
sure - here is the haze mode on the RM-1N
the mix is all the way up and the depth all the way down.
drone almost all the way up, just on the edge.
feedback is set to where it is just enough to bring in the background haze, but NOT too much that that runs away..
reverb output can go from 11- 2:00, otherwise is starts to runaway.
the post and pre gain parameters are really up to you.
post more pics of this bad ass reverb pedal... and your favorite settings...
lots of haze coming off the pedal in these two photos.
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With some friends
I'm running my RM 2nd in my chain - between two octave pedals, before all of my trems.
RM-1N is one of my favorite reverbs specifically for the pre and post gain options as well as the reverb sound itself. I use it on everything from guitar to drums to vocals.
The Echo Degrader is still fairly new to me but i'm enjoying it a lot for lo-fi soundscapes. I don't think it's really something you get to play Van Halen solos with but it has it's use if that's your thing and it is my thing.
Never went down the 4046 road.... it's very interesting and cool but not really anything i would use at the moment.
received the 4046-M & RM-1N. total keepers. love them. was well inspired buying those; now i'm selling stuff to buy the Echo Degrader, if it is still available by the time i gather the money. I was looking for a Boss DM-1 which is very nice, but quite limited to short beautiful echoes. The ED might be less classic. I had desired a Snazzy Fx Wow and Flutter for years but could never grab one. Maybe i'll be able to get an ED.
I think it's worth tracking one down
Are the ED & RM-1N using the PT2399 ? I will not open it to check. I'm no DIY specialist either. Just wondering about the reverb/delay lengths, filtering and any technical details for personal curiosity. I like it to be able to hear if it's an MN3205, SAD1O24 or whatever. But i have not in mind to remove any of the pedals' mystery. I suppose the chip has very little to nothing to do with the sound, it's rather the circuitry around developing it.
I couldn't tell you that. Maybe someone with a better grasp of circuitry will chime in.
I've been building for Andrew/Industrialectric for over a year now and I greatly appreciate the props! We're so glad you all are digging them. @Leon Kowalski yes, the Echo Degrader utilizes a PT2399.
Cool man. I can't wait to see what you guys do next? Did I read somewhere Andrew is gonna do an updated 4046 sometime in the future? Cant remember if that was just talk or a post he made on ILF
I'm sooo close to pulling the trigger on a rm-n1. Then I start to think that a ghost echo>fuzz may get me to the same place, short of the oscillation switch. Ugh I can't decide