Intonate at 24th fret instead of 12th

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  1. DarkenedGod

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    Does anyone else when intonating their guitars intonate at the 24th fret instead of the 12th fret? To me it feels like it's actually more in tune then doing it at the 12th.
     
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  2. Starshine

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    Guitars have 24 frets?
     
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    It never occurred to me to try the 24th fret. I have a guitar with 24 frets, and I am going to try it.
     
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    I'd rather have the 12th in tune. YMMV

    Plus I don't own a guitar with 24 frets.
     
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  5. Steve_U1S

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    I personally check it at several locations when I'm doing intonation, in order to 'balance' anomalies as I go.
    It's surprising how much 'personality' one can find in fret work/positions etc. when doing this.
     
  6. jwguitar

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    I’m not sure why you couldn’t do that. I am not sure but I think the reason you typically intonate on the 12th fret is because that is the exact halfway point of the string. That way, it gives you a happy medium between frets 1-11 and 12-24
     
  7. Tony Done

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    I think that how you choose to check intonation should depend to some extent of you playing style. For example, if you don't use the open strings much, and play a lot around the octave frets, you might want to use the 3rd and 15th frets, for example.
     
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    I usually use the 15th or 17th. It's a little more precise than the 12th. I don't have a 24 fret guitar, so, no, I don't do it there.
     
  9. StummerJoe

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    In over twenty years of doing set ups as a day job, it never occurred to me to try that. Also, most guitars don't have 24 frets.
    Now you have me wondering about those old Washburn's with the 36 frets...Hmmmmm?
     
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    "...there's no money above the fifth fret..."
    ..Tedesco
     
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    What? There’s no money above the 10th fret. Everyone knows that. :hide
     
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    Intonation is always a compromise. I like to set it at the 12th then check it at 5 and 17. Once I have that as close as possible I check all over the neck. I’ve never had any guitar perfect everywhere. It’s important to use proper fretting technique, to recognize what chord positions are most in tune, and to play as in tune as possible.
     
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    This is why people use vibrato.
     
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    Yes averaging two or more places works well.

    Lloyd
     
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    Check it/ set it where you spend the most time chordally. Many if not most guitars are a compromise as you go between extremes.
     
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  16. JosephZdyrski

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    I check several locations... 12th fret isn’t some magical point where all things are intonated perfectly... and the 24th would be even worse. I check at least the 7th, 12th, 15th, 20th, 1st & 2nd.... that the bare minimum I check on every string to get good intonation.
     
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    No disrespect I swear, but how could it not? Maybe it's my lack of 'training' but I've always checked it across the full range of an instrument.
     
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  18. StummerJoe

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    Of course I check to make sure the whole guitar is in tune, but I've always intonated at the twelve and it has always worked fine. I learned from old timers. THAT is why it never occurred to me.;)
     
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    Or slide.
     
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  20. Dexter.Sinister

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    Or bending notes inside an outtatune chord. I use that approach a lot and use it also to add movement and color.
     
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