intro and ending

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  1. purestmonk

    purestmonk Member

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    Im just going to bring up a topic that isnt talked about very much.

    How about share some ways you introduce and end a tune?
     
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  2. JonR

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    At the beginning I start playing, and at the end I stop.

    Generally that seems to work, as long as the rest of the band do it at the same time.

    :D

    Seriously, I don't have any "ways" that apply to tunes in general. I think it depends on the song itself - or maybe on the genre.
    However, there are some cute ways of finishing tunes that I sometimes can't resist. Eg, if it's a minor key (esp a ballad) ending on a m(add9) or m6 is a cheesy sound that's often irresistible. The m(add9) is wistful, poignant, sweet, while the m6 is quirky, quizzical, more mysterious. (But both are still cheesy...)
    There's a guy I know who likes that m6 sound (a little too much for my liking), but he is even more addicted to ending major key tunes with a b7 on the tonic, even when it's not a blues. Drives me mad...

    I like 6th chords at the end in major keys, if it's a country or rockabilly tune - again it's a little cheesy (esp if overdone...), but suits the genre, IMO. (6th chords are of course the preferred choice in jazz if the melody finishes on the tonic.)
     
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    Yes, we often end on some kind of sus4, add9, or even on the actual IV chord. Then we just peter out and people aren't sure if we're done or not. :D
     
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    Yes, ending on IV is a great "huh?" sound. :) (Knockin' on Heaven's Door tempts you to do that - too obvious to just go back to I.)
     
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    I like ending on a minor6, for example in a minor tune that ends on the tonic minor, but just add the major 6th in, that's cool.

    But Im thinking more of formats to end and to start. I think a classic example of good start and intro would be cannonball's version of autumn leaves.

    Someone who is a monster at intros would be Brad Mehldau.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ph48xoGjl1c

    He is sick

    Feel free to post some intro and endings that you like .. I will post more soon
     
  6. JonR

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    Yes, we use something similar for Love for Sale - a kind of G minor pent latin riff, leading into the C.
    Can't remember where we stole it from, probably Kate Williams quartet (and I don't know if she stole it from somewhere).
    Oh yeah, I use that one all the time...
    NOT!

    I love everything I've heard Mehldau do.
     
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    Hampton Hawes was great at intros, like in this clip. Some very nice ones on his mid 50's trio albums as well.

     
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    I think if there is one thing Hendrix did well, it was his intro's. He wrote the best intro's of the rock guitar breed I always thought.

    Sabbath and Zep were great as was Cream, the Kinks, and Iron Butterfly, but I still think Hendrix held the cards on having distinctive and grabbing intro's.

    Not sure about endings. Bowie seemed to always know how to end a tune in it's own right, as well as The Beatles. Yes had some pretty good endings too.
     
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    Joe talks about this exact subject starting at 3:00




    Here's a simple 1 chord intro to a blues by Howard Roberts

     
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    Sometimes, when I'm in a good mood (rarely), I'll play "and many more" at the end of every tune we play just to annoy my bandmates. Luckily for them, since I'm usually a grouch, they only have to hear it at the end of Brown Eyed Girl and/or Mustang Sally ;-)

    Steve
     
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    Thanks for pointing out .. I didnt realise that before and I just did. I went to listen to the hendrix songs and yes he almost always does some sort of an intro before the song proper
     
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    I got turned on to this intro and ending thing a couple of years back when I saw that exact joe pass video! it's just great. the simple intro is great too, you can do so much with one chord, sweeet
     
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    it's amazing how piano players always come up with such intricate stuff!
     
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    i start of with a happy song and end with a sad song
     

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