Is a pedal tuner more accurate than a polytune clip on?

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  1. stevieboy

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    I have both, the clip on I use is one that tucks under the headstock pretty well and is barely visible. I still prefer the pedal but for the reasons other than accuracy.

    Once I calibrated the clip on to a pedal tuner, when I've occasionally compared them they give essentially the same results.

    There are mini tuners like the Polytune that might fit on a board that a TU-3 wouldn't.

    Also, if you go to the trouble of putting on and taking off your clip on every time you tune, just carrying a pedal tuner seperate from your board and adding it to the front when you set up has to be over all way less of a PITA. Putting on and taking off the clip on isn't that tough of course, but repeating it several times would get to be a bit of a pain and might discourage using it as much as you need to.
     
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    Some think that you can't tune with a clip-on in a noisy environment. Since clip-ons work on vibration they can be used in an environment with ambient sound/noise.
     
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  3. Don A

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    I find myself compensating slightly with clip on tuners- even my Unitune, but I think it's due to the small size and readout. I find the strobe mode to be a little clunky and in the needle mode there's a large enough range where it's supposedly in tune that I can hear the difference in tuning while the readout is still in the green. I get much better tuning results with a Turbo Tuner.
     
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    My Unitune clip is my favourite tuner. It's the same as a polytune but doesn't automatically switch to poly if you strum all the strings. I found that feature annoying and not worth the extra $20.

    In isolation it's more accurate than most pedal tuners. But a pedal is much more practical in a noisy environment and less visible, plus they cut off the sound when you activate them so you can tune without any noise from your guitar.
     
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    Sound is vibration. If your guitar neck is vibrating from the bass player's note, a clip-on can pick that up. I've experienced this myself, so I'm not just floating theory.
     
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    I've had problems trying to use them live. Like you said, they pick up vibrations...like other band members playing at full volume on stage while you're quickly trying to tune. If all the ambient sound you have to deal with is a relatively quiet TV in the background, they're fine. But I, as well as some others, have actually had issues with clip ons in noisy environments, it's not just speculation.
     
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    I can see that if there is some loud music, especially a lot of bass, that would produce vibration that could be picked up by the neck and headstock of a nearby guitar. That is a good point to remember.
     
  8. Bobbyoso

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    Just a thought; you could read the accuracy specs on the tuners, and that way, opinions don't get in the way of the facts.

    So, with that in mind, the Turbotuners are .02 cent accuracy; Petersons, while 5x less accurate (0.1 cents), are still more than adequate. Most clipons, with the exception of the Peterson, are an order of magnitude less accurate (1-3 cents).

    I think there are still folks who would find the less accurate clipons to be adequate. Depends on your music, whether you do your own setups, and the guitars you use (I had a 60s SG special with a wraparound tailpiece that could never get within a zipcode of "intonated", so using a .02 cent tuner with that guitar was like putting a 14x nightscope on a Daisy BB gun).

    Check the specs--anything else is just an opinion, and you know what they say...
     
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    Several posts before yours, a rep from Peterson explained precisely why those specs aren't the whole story. Context is what turns numbers into information.
     
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    I've definitely been in high volume situations where the clip on didn't really work because it was picking up vibrations from other sources.
     
  12. doublescale1

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    get a TC Polytune mini - used on Reverb from $65.00, new $99.00 - real accurate and mute function is your friend. Put it on the floor next to your pedal board if you have to. In tune rocks.
     
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    Thanks to my clip on some of my high end fender decal are torn now. Never used clip on again since
     
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    When i switched from a broken Korg Pitchblack pedal tuner to a clip-on a few years ago, I really thought at the time that that must be a compromise in tuning accuracy and I'd switch back as soon as I could get another delivered.

    And you know, I never did! I don't know if I'm less in tune or not, but I've just never noticed anything demonstrable. Maybe I never could tell the minute differences in pitch anyway, but maybe I don't need to. The guitars sound the same, my playing sounds the same.. I've just forgotten about it and the new Pitchblack sit's on the shelf unused. One more space on my board free.

    Of course, I only play at home nowadays. I'ts not going to work if your in a band.
     
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    Save up and get a Peterson.

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    Use whatever is easiest and most convenient for you. Guitars themselves generally don't play 100% in tune due to intonation and/or variable fretting pressure from your fingers. There's no point in getting within 0.01% when tuning when your actual performance will have a wider variance anyways.
     
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    I just bought a Peterson StroboClip HD. Haven’t yet decided what I'm going to do with it. I may return it and get the one you posted. I thought I would love it. It's kinda meh. So far not a lot of reason to reach for it over my $10 Snark.
     
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  18. Bobbyoso

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    Read his post, it's irrelevant. Assuming that the accuracy info from each manufacturer is nonfiction , .02 cents guaranteed is more accurate than 0.1 cent guaranteed, period. Regardless of spin from a vested interest. Verified performance specs are empirical, opinions are...opinions.
     
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    You're satisfied that .02 cents and 0.1 cents as reported by each manufacturer are measuring the same thing, and are directly relatable, even with the explanation that .02c describes something other than what the tuner is capable of displaying?

    By whom are the performance specs verified and within what parameters? It seems strange to say that the specs are "fact" and that anything else is "opinion" while also assuming, without any further examination, that the manufacturers specs are the whole truth. Talk about spin from a vested interest!
     
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    This has great eq, chorus, trem, delay, octave - most everything but the distortion effects are great - those are ok. Excellent configurable tuner.
    I like the option to change effects on mood or gig situation. A fantastic unit overall with outstanding bypass buffer.

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