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Is a tubescreamer VERY different from a rangemaster?

soldano16

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I'm quite new to pedals and have recently discovered the joy of Rangemaster type pedals. My prior experience was only with a tubescreamer and a Boss SD-1.

I never consistantly liked the tube screamer and the Boss was the best I knew of until I hit the current batch of boutique pedals. I'm using my Lovepedal BBB07 in Rangemaster settings and I find the pedal just so much more natural and organic sounding than either the TS or SD-1.

Maybe it's because my ears are relating to all those old Les Paul/Marshall tunes from the 60's and 70's.

So I was curious - are there major design differences between a TS or SD-1 pedal and something like the BBB07?
 

wingwalker

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Yes...completely different. One is an opamp based OD unit while one is a germanium boost...
 

wingwalker

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Or silicone depending on version of Rangemaster ;)
Well, a real Dallas Ranger Master was ALWAYS germanium however you are right...there are loads of silicon clones out there and I have to assume he was asking about clones since not many people can afford/find originals!

Either way...good call!
 
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+1 on the above responses... i've been using my treble boost almost exclusively for OD/Boost sounds lately and am really digging it...

that said, if you stack a treble booster to drive a TS-type pedal you can get some killer tones too...
 

Rob Eadgbe

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I believe (and I could be very wrong) that the BBB is a lot like the Tonefactor Hellbilly, which is a fuzz circuit tweaked to sound like a treble boost into a dirty amp. On their own into a clean amp you can still dial in a good tone, but you can't do that with an original Rangemaster circuit. It only sounds good when it's pushing an already distorted amp, or a pedal further downstream.
 

re-animator

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IMO, the biggest differences are that tube screamers don't really add hair... they just compress the dirt. Also, tube screamers don't react well with the volume knob on your guitar.
 

BluesHarp

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My tone sounds MUCH more real somehow with a Beano than through a ts-9. Hard to describe, but I find ways of using the Beano in place of a ts-9 type pedal whenever possible. Right now Im using the Eternity burst ( on low gain settings ) for my ts-9 stuff. Its an awesome pedal, buts its... well a different pedal. Better not to pick on this one, as I will get flack over it, but this one knob Beano is soooo... "there" for me. Run it low on bass setting through a Budda wah ( no treble spikes on toe ) and then into a MP DBD or Mojo Vibe... Oh yeah!!!!

Opamps are starting to bug me... except my Timmy!
 

BBQLS1

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Very Different. Tubescreamers traditionally have a mid hump that makes strats sound fat, but with a bucker guitar like a LP, they boost the mids too much. The Boss, BD-2, Treble boosters, Xotic Effects...... all sound great with bucker guitars because the don't have the mid hump or you can boost the treble/bass to taste.

The TS808s can sound decent with a humbucker guitar and the right amp since the mid hump isn't as pronounced.
 

re-animator

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:confused: from me too.

The Tubescreamer creates distortion and clips the signal.
It doesn't just compress, or it would be a compressor.
All Distortion pedals create some compression of the signal.

I know they add distortion/clipping, but for me its never been the real "hairy" distortion. Smooth like a Holdsworth or Eric Johnson type sound rather than something filthy around the edges like a Satriani sound, or a fuzz like a BMP.
 




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