Is amp modeling ethical?

Discussion in 'Digital & Modeling Gear' started by joesatch, Oct 12, 2019.

Is amp modeling ethical?

  1. No, you're cheating the listener and simulating what should be real

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  2. Whatever it takes, convenience and budget trumps all.

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  3. Await John Mayer's thoughts

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  1. joesatch

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    Who's to say the modeler isn't realer than the real thing. I posit that modelers sound better because they don't wapoosh as much. Take that John Mayer.
     
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    Often they make slight difference, specially to the eq.
     
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    Is it ethical to use tubes that are made in countries with little to no environmental laws due to the toxic processes required? Or amps that are highly inefficient and waste most of the energy they use as heat?
    What exactly do you mean by ethical?
     
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    Is it ethical to change a couple of component values in a Fender or Marshall circuit and market it as your own design?
     
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    Is it ethical to combine a Revv Generator and a Jazz Chorus in the same preset?
     
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    Is it ethical to use a Mogami cable that costs more than the pedal it's plugged into?
     
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    Where are you sourcing your electricity from???
     
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    Ethics as we used to know them have ceased to exist.

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    Always. ALWAYS. Wait for what John Mayer has to say. Until he signs off on it, it's not a reality.
     
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    Is ethical to read TGP?
     
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    Fundamentally a different product. At least with the way we've set up our IP system, I think we can pretty safely say that there is no ethical quandary surrounding modelling so long as the appropriate trademarks and copyright laws are adhered to.
     
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    Well - modeling has surpassed old technology like tube amps and transistor based pedals. It is not just a matter of convenience and budget. It's just better in so many ways.

    Whether it is ethical or what mr. Mayer thinks of it dosen't really matter to me.
     
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    um....why is modeling always trying to copy/emulate old tech then and coming close but no cigar????? It tells me old tech is still prefered.
     
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