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is mayer's two rock sig just a studio pro with his sig stamped on it?

rick13

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I thought my Two Rock already had incredible depth,bandwidth and soundstage. Maybe it's the ink.
Rick
 

GregDClark

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No, it's a Custom Reverb Sig with mods to his preferences AFAIK


EDIT: http://www.two-rock.com/products/limited-edition-a-discontinued/john-mayer-signature.html
here is TRs description.
Actually John Mayers Two-Rock sig. is loosely based upon (Inspired by) an early (pre serial # 4) 100w Steel String Singer.

The Two-Rock JM sig is basically a Steel String Singer without the Hi & Low Step filters. It uses a cathode follower driver tube in the phase inverter that increases clean head room 10 fold. It also uses a similar 2 tube Reverb as the SSS.
 

traviswalk

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can you get pretty close tones with the studio pro?
You bet, at lower volumes the Studio Pro can be EQ'd to get very similar tones, but as Greg mentions above the Studio Pro runs out of headroom real fast compared to the Mayer, which with single coils will stay clean all the way until the Master is dimed.
 

chrisrocksusa

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You bet, at lower volumes the Studio Pro can be EQ'd to get very similar tones, but as Greg mentions above the Studio Pro runs out of headroom real fast compared to the Mayer, which with single coils will stay clean all the way until the Master is dimed.
That's good news. So you prob can't keep up w a drummer while staying clean eh?
 

traviswalk

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That's good news. So you prob can't keep up w a drummer while staying clean eh?
With single coils its tough, at drummer level it will get a good amount of hair on the notes, but that's surely not a bad thing and it's a great low gain grind. With humbuckers you would definitely not be clean with a heavy handed drummer. That's with me using the Studio Pro 35, haven't tried the new Studio Pro 50 or 100, which would definitely remedy that.
 

chrisrocksusa

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With single coils its tough, at drummer level it will get a good amount of hair on the notes, but that's surely not a bad thing and it's a great low gain grind. With humbuckers you would definitely not be clean with a heavy handed drummer. That's with me using the Studio Pro 35, haven't tried the new Studio Pro 50 or 100, which would definitely remedy that.
oi vey. I don't have any single coil guitars, but I could see myself snagging a strat pretty soon.

problem is I fell in love the tone on that video of mayer trying out his sig at the two rock shop. I don't necessarily want his sig amp, but something similar. I'm never going to drop 6 grand on a single amp though lol. I would GLADLY pay for a studio pro though.
 

stratpaulguy86

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Im going to be "that guy" and suggest something totally different than a Two Rock for that tone. I just picked up a mostly original '67 Twin Reverb for less than a grand. It slays any clean Two Rock clip that I've ever heard for that big clean Strat sound. For the price of a Two Rock I'd probably buy a vintage Fender or two and call it a day. I remember I almost pulled the trigger on a CRS v.1 100w one day but quickly came to my senses....$3k is a lot of coin for a single head. Great, even incredible amps though. Like a big Fender with a little more midrange.
 

kimock

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It slays any clean Two Rock clip that I've ever heard for that big clean Strat sound.
You'd likely discover the opposite in person, that's coming from a big clean Strat guy who uses both.

For the price of a Two Rock I'd probably buy a vintage Fender or two and call it a day.
As long as you keep 'em at home and don't ever compare 'em side by each on the bandstand, that'll work just fine.
Huge Fender fan I am, but you get what you pay for, you really do.
 

stratpaulguy86

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No doubt Kimock, you have wayyyy more Two-Rock experience than I do! For Mayer stuff they cannot be beat. I just never really bonded with the Dumble type cleans as much as the Fender clean sound. I'm a huge EJ fan so Fender Twin is the clean sound in my head. I can see where those sweet Two Rock mids would make them sound bigger and cut through a mix better. I run a pair of Twins in stereo so that's like, what, 160-200w of pure clean tone! I'd still love to own a CRS someday though. My only point is there are legions of guys doing the Mayer/SRV thing very well with good ole "cheap" Fenders!
 

Rod

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Reread the Kimock post. My ears never got along with Fender amp tones however the Two Rocks tones are very pleasing to me.
 

kimock

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No doubt Kimock, you have wayyyy more Two-Rock experience than I do! For Mayer stuff they cannot be beat. I just never really bonded with the Dumble type cleans as much as the Fender clean sound. I'm a huge EJ fan so Fender Twin is the clean sound in my head. I can see where those sweet Two Rock mids would make them sound bigger and cut through a mix better. I run a pair of Twins in stereo so that's like, what, 160-200w of pure clean tone! I'd still love to own a CRS someday though. My only point is there are legions of guys doing the Mayer/SRV thing very well with good ole "cheap" Fenders!
I just took that slant on it because you cut in front of me with the Fender comment.
That's my job! Most of the time. .:p

Normally if the discussion is "Dumble style tones on a budget" or some such, I'll say exactly what you're saying; tons of guys hittin' it with Fenders with no loss of credibility. They're killng it with stock Fenders.
That's probably half of my business on the road, backline Fenders, usually a pair of Twins, so I get that approach.

The flip side of the Two Rock vs. Fender question for me is I have a bunch of really nice Fender amps and a pair of actual Dumbles to compare in a live band context as opposed to listening to clips, and under those conditions the Fenders always place last.

I love 'em, but they just don't "do better" when it's side by side, tone for tone.
The Fenders that I do gig with, Twin Reverb, BF Dual Showman, Blonde Bassman, 59 Bassman, three BF Bandmasters in various states of stock to highly modified, are all in great shape.

The stock Bandmaster and Bassmans are perfect, blueprinted, not a hair out of place, the rest are merely excellent.
Time and time again, when I get from rehearsal with the Fenders (awesome btw) to ready to hit the road, and I listen with the guys doing the production, the Two Rock stuff winds up working better than the Fenders for everybody.

I love the Fenders too, it's sad.

Side by side, the Two Rock is an overall improvement on stage.
The Dumble is better for some stuff straight up, but the TR is still a better clean amp, and side by side between the TR and the Dumble it's a toss-up.

In the studio, at home, in rehearsal, when I fly and use backline, I'm a Fender guy.

If I have the option, I'll use the Two Rock and a Fender of some description, that's the best of both worlds.
If I was setting my own **** up right now, it'd be a 4x10 Bassman all NOS in a repro cab and chassis and my dual rectified Two Rock thing, basically a type 3 with a couple tweaks.

Blah, blah, blah. . .

The Fender amps are great, love 'em, grew up with 'em, gig with them more often than not.
They are not functionally equivalent to the Two Rock stuff.

I like both . .:bonk
 

KOG

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Here is a big AMEN for the Two Rock dual rectifier thing with a couple tweaks! I am a beliver and owner.

Steve knows best. :wave


 




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