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Is there a device to get you a direct out signal from a speaker cable?

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs' started by dinrodef, Oct 17, 2005.

  1. dinrodef

    dinrodef Guest

    I was thinking of buying an amp with no efx loop or DI... but I need a direct out to run with a sub cab

    Is there a device for this? I think I saw one in the forums before..thanks
     
  2. Scott Peterson

    Scott Peterson Administrator Staff Member

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    The THD HotPlate does that.
     
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    +1
     
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    There used to be a direct box called a Red Box that did what you want. I'm pretty sure they're less expensive than Hot Plates but don't offer the attenuation function.
     
  6. Randy

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    CAE makes a line out box which does exactly this.
     
  7. Randy

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    However the Red box and others like it have built in cabinet simulation and are intended to go right to a mixer for recording or PA.
     
  8. Blue Strat

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    But since the cabinet emulator has a similar response to a cab (which knocks of high end) I don't think you'd be losing anything.
     
  9. hasserl

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    Weber VST has quite a few products that will also acomplish this. The simplest one is probably the Headphone Tap that is designed to provide a dummy load for an amp so it can be run without a speaker, and also a headphone tap and a variable line out.

    A little more sophisticated is the Power Tap.

    Here: http://www.tedweber.com/atten.htm
     
  10. Ed DeGenaro

    Ed DeGenaro Supporting Member

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    Asuming he wants to use the line-out signal for a wet/dry rig the roll off will be an issue.
    However, and I remember that anymore the Red Box may have a bypass.

    FWIW, long before I worked for THD I started using Hot Plates so I had delay post power amp on my JMPs.
     
  11. Gary Brennan

    Gary Brennan Old cavorting member Gold Supporting Member

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    The current Red box incarnation (Red Box Pro) does either speaker simulated or or unsimulated line out, selectable via a switch.

    gb
     
  12. GCDEF

    GCDEF Supporting Member

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    Behringer also has the Ultra-G, which is quite a bit cheaper than the others and works just as well. You can turn cabinet simulation on or off.
     
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    drbob1 Silver Supporting Member

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    Unfortunately, the Red Box only has an XLR output, so you'd have to run thru a transformer to get a line level signal for your sub. Doesn't Weber have schematics for a simple, resistor based tap to get a line level signal? You'd parallel a large resistor with the speaker cable and tap a small vltage signal off of that...
     
  14. bluesdoc

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    Palmer PDI 09

    jon
     
  15. dinrodef

    dinrodef Guest

    Thanks everybody... I think the THD hotplate is the way to go for my use
     

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