Is there anythig similar to a BK Butler Tube Driver and Vintage Arbiter Fuzz Face?

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  1. archtopjazz

    archtopjazz Gold Supporting Member Gold Supporting Member

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    Looking for pedals that are now being manufactured that would be based on the old BK Butler Tube Driver and the Vintage Dallas Arbiter Fuzz Face. Is anybody making anything like these?
     
  2. Franklin

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    Well the Arbiters are fuzzes based on transistors, the BK based on tubes.

    I put a 12at7 in my bk tube driver, and with the gain turned up all the way it's pretty fuzzy, but that's not what you asked ....
     
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    You're reading too much Guitar Player.

    Calmly step away from the magazine...
     
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    archtopjazz Gold Supporting Member Gold Supporting Member

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    Your right LOL. And listening to too much EJ
     
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    The Tube Driver was repackaged as the Tube Works Real Tube for a while and later picked up briefly by Genz-Benz. You can still pick them up on the 'Bay for less than $200.

    This pedal has a couple of solid stage amplifiers cascading into a tube configured as a cathode follower and running its plates at around 9V. This is all far less than ideal. FWIW, EJ uses it as an EQ and boost to goose one of his Marshalls rather than using much of its overdrive.

    There are a lot of folks out there making Fuzz Face clones, so you have lots of options.
     
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    the Soldano Supercharger is tube inspired and awesome.

    every one and thier brothers sisters cousins uncle builds a fuzz face copy.
     
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    David Main of DAM pedals in the UK makes a clone of the original Tube Driver, I'd guess it comes closer than any of the replacements/reissues from TubeWorks- but if you're in the U.S. the currency exchange will make his clone cost you almost as much as an original. For Fuzzfaces, Analogman and ProAnalog consistently get great reviews for being great FF clones, MJM is also good but his pedals seem to have a slightly different personality(albeit a good one) from the originals, and the Fulltone clone is popular, but that doesn't mean it's the best :D
     
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    I've heard a lot of good things about Analogman's pedals. I'll have to check them out. Thanks
     
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    I have one of those that I bought forever ago. I don't think I've plugged it in in the last 10 years. Hmmmm, ebay...
     
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    The Tubeworks Real Tube. It's got a black case. "designed by BK Butler."

    I just plugged it in. Sounds great. Real nice singing tone. Pluged into my Two Rock, it really didn't sound much different than the TR's overdrive channel. The TR's drive was a bit nicer. Use the Tube Works with the TR's drive channel (together) and wow!

    Only problem is the pots are all scratchy and need cleaning.

    I think I remember changing the 12AX7 for a 12AT7 way back when.
     
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    How similar is the Varidrive to the Tube Driver?
     
  14. drbob1

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    I don't think they're very similar. As mentioned the TD is using primarily solid state drive and a very low voltage on the tube. The VD (not great initials, huh?) uses the tube at real amp voltages if I understand correctly. It's very sensitive to the amp it's going out to and the tube that's in it.
     
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    What's the best TD being made now?
     
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    The BK Butler Tube Drive Circuit is based on a OP-Amp Gainstage driven into two triode-stages of 12AX7 tube, using low plate voltage (about 16Volts)

    there are lot of similar products, such as chandler tube driver, Dean Markley Overlord (Classic Tube Overdrive) and many others.....

    speaking of the Guitar Player.....there was a circuit for Tube-Distortion by Ron Black....its almost the same as the BK Butler TD

    there are some other products using higher plate voltage.....real tube overdrive needs minimum 3 gain stages....one 12AX7 has just 2 gain stages....

    another cool tube-pedal is: Badcat 2Tone or BadCat Xtreme tone (if you have some probs with the interactive EQ, i have some solutions);)


    greetz
    Paco
     
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    What about the new Maxon tube pedal, anyone try one yet?
     
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    seems to be a modded ibanez tubeking-pedal to me :D ...cool!

    aaaand.....the vox cooltron tube pedals!;)
     
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    Anybody tried the Vox Big Ben? I've heard some good things about it.
     
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    Any other alternative to the Butler Tube Driver?
     

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