I don't mean to start shyte, but I've noticed that there's really only two types of people in this world- those who like Dumbles, and those who like Trainwrecks. It seems that there's a group of folks that stand behind each amp, and WON'T use the other one. It seems to be hidden, though. This is in regards to both real Dumbles & 'wrecks and the "clone" amps. It seems to go futher than that, IMO. You've got (what appear to be, IMO) rivalry between the "D" and "TW" style builders, and while it's not direct, it's there. Look at Komet vs. Two Rock., Dr.Z vs. Carol Ann, etc. When I say rivalry, I don't mean between the actual builders, but rather between the folks who chose to buy/use the amps. Does anyone else see this? If so, why do you think it's like this? I've always wondered about this. Did Howard and Kenny ever exchange ideas, did they ever talk, did they ever do anything together related to amp designing/building? Once again, I'm not trying to start the mother of all ****-storms, but I'm genuinely curious as to why it's like this... Cheers, Marko M. P.S. I've personally played a few real 'wrecks and LOVED them. I've also had the chance to play a real Dumble, twice, but it just didn't work out. In the next few months, I'm gonna' play a real Dumble, though, so I'm anxious to see what my thoughts will be then. That said, I dig both styles of "clone" amps.