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Iso cab recording

Discussion in 'Recording/Live Sound' started by DonW, Feb 16, 2005.

  1. DonW

    DonW Velocity Town Angel Silver Supporting Member

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    I bought an iso cab to use in the studio and the sound is less than desirable. I was told a condenser mic is what you need to get it right. I used a sm57 and it sounds great on standard cabs. Anyone use an iso cab before and what were the results? Thanks!
     
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    FlyingVBlues Gold Supporting Member

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    Ed DeGenaro has 2 Demeter iso cabs - one with a V30 and the other with a Red Fang. He has posted a number of great clips in the Soundclips section that were recorded with SM57s and e609s. He uses an Emu 1820 sound card and I believe he mainly uses Samplitude/Sequoia.

    FVB
     
  3. DonW

    DonW Velocity Town Angel Silver Supporting Member

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    Thanks FVB. Mine is a Randall Iso Cab. I go back to the studio next month and I have some other mics to use so I'll see what I can do. Ed's material sounds great.
     
  4. Ed DeGenaro

    Ed DeGenaro Supporting Member

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    Indeedy...
     
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    Ed,

    Are all the clips on your site through the Demeter Iso-Box?



    Thanks.
     
  6. Ed DeGenaro

    Ed DeGenaro Supporting Member

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    There are like 3 that aren't...
    http://www.eddegenaro.com/audio
     
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    Ed,

    If I played the right clips, they sound pretty darn good!!!!

    I'm looking to get one, but wanted to know.......

    -How much noise and vibration comes out of the cab? Is it safe for apartment use at night? Is it comparable to TV volume?

    -Do you have the standard size cab or a larger custom one?

    -Any expensive tricks (fancy mic pres, plug-ins, etc) you NEED to employ in order to get it to sound good, or is it pretty usable with a good mic and say an MBOX?

    -Any problems or complaints you have with it?

    -Is it a pain in the neck to properly position a mic in there?

    -I assume it's gotta be better than something like a POD or spkr simulator....do you prefer it to a Palmer-type spkr sim?

    Thanks.
     
  8. Ed DeGenaro

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    It will still be audible a lot if you're cranking an amp. Also remember that the speaker limits how much you can throw in there. I always Hot Plate everything.
    As for fancy tricks...I do have a few plugs I use a lot, verb/delay type stuff but other than that. It's just mic-mic pre-done
    Pre's...the 609 runs through a ted Fletcher thing the 57 through an ancient RCA I ripped out of a board.

    And yes it'll be fine with a 57 and Mbox.
    Position is simple depending on speaker.
    Hell yeah a prefer it to any sim...no matter whose.

    Down side...if you expect it to sound like a 4x12 you're in for a rude awakening. If what you want is a good recorded tone...bingo.
     
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    Sounds cool.

    I'm looking for a good recorded tone....I don't expect miracles....just something that I can use in my apartment to track with late at night or whenever, but still get a musical tone that I can't get from any POD type thing.
    I would hope that if you had your amp at a moderate volume it would not be too loud to use after 10pm....at least no louder than a TV or stereo.....is this a fair assumption or is this box gonna be too loud for apartment use?

    Thanks!
     
  10. Ed DeGenaro

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    If we're not talking a 100 wtter cranked it'll be fine...
     
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    That's good to know.

    No 100 watters, just a 25 watt Masonette and a 35 watt tweed Bandmaster....

    Thanks for all the good info!!
    It's really hard to trust a magazine review. Especially on a product like this where it could be a total bust and waste of money....
    I've been searching for a solution to getting good tone to tape in my apartment. The POD is OK, and micing my amps at low volume with pedals is better, but not ideal. I would think that the iso-cab would be a major improvement to my current setup...your clips are really good evidence of it's capabilities.

    Thanks again.
     
  12. Ed DeGenaro

    Ed DeGenaro Supporting Member

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    Dude, you're in LA. Call Adam at Demeter and ask whether you can come by and check one out...
     
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    Great idea...I'll have to do that.
     
  14. DonW

    DonW Velocity Town Angel Silver Supporting Member

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    This thread has been great help. I opened up the amp(50 watter)too wide more than likely. (Gain topped out, level on 6 and master at 4) The high gain stuff I'm composing now just plain may have to go through a regular cab.
     

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