It's here! It's here! (Initial Love Rock review porn enclosed.)

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  1. electronpirate

    electronpirate Member

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    I just like having the word 'porn' in the title.

    Well, my earlier post of 'What's worse...' about waiting for a guitar delivery was a very pleasant suprise, followed by a disappointment, debouching into a dilemna.

    The DHL tracking site listed my estimated delivery to be on June 13th. Going ground. So I'm whining about the wait.

    Today, a pound on the door getting my a$$ out of bed cranky, and voila! DHL guy is here with my guitar! Nice suprise to wake up to!

    Anticipation abounds. Decently packed. Case looks good on the outside (replica Gibby case replete with faux-silk insert/cover.)

    Open the case, and a VERY good looking Love Rock LP inside! CherryBurst Custom (something wrong here, but more later). Quick visual, and it looks fantastic. Pick it up, WOW is this thing heavy duty. A few plucks, action is low...TOO low as I'm buzzing on lower strings at chord level. No problem, easily fixed. Lower the pups a few hairs. Done.

    Off to the practice space before work to get my equipment (it will be a late night playing,) and have to plug in for a few. An hour later, I'm in heaven. This is by far the best Les Paul I've played (and I've played ALOT of them). Very solid. Tuners are tight and sensitive enough for microtunings. Nut needs to be opened up abit; another detail. The bridge pup is very hot, but tameable with volume knob, almost too bright wide open at full treble on tone (probably the Maple neck). Bridge sounds good wide open, but a bit muddy when dialed down. I am getting an excellent variety of sounds by middle position playing with both tone and volume knobs.

    Bottom line: I never have need to go to Gibson. I had bought a Wine Lester a few months ago, and took it back it sounded so horrible. I could change out the pups (and probably will), but I can buy 4 Love Rock's for the same $2400 price, and have a visual and aural quality. I'm not easily impressed, but this is an excellent deal.

    Into the case, gear into the car. Off to work.

    Finally what's wrong hits me: It's just not the same guitar that I purchased on Ebay. Cherry burst is much lighter than what I wanted. Flame is good, no problems there. I check the pics of the auction, and nope, that's not the guitar. To compound that, I see that the same seller has the EXACT same pic on another new auction. (And the listing sais 'This is the picture of the actual guitar')

    I email, and the (admittedly quick) response is to:
    -Send back on my dime, and refund or exchange.
    -$25 cash
    -Strings

    The dilemma is to: send it back and get what I wanted elsewhere, but I figure my cost will be $30 shipping + $20 paypal fees + cost differential for the other one I had my eye on + $60 = $110 or so. This is a very good looking guitar, and it plays great, so I'm not sure my visuals are worth the $$ and time to screw around with it. Leaning towards just taking the money.

    There it is, the initial review. It seems every good thing has to have some sort of drawback, but I'm so happy with it, I'm having a hard time being pissed about the mistake....

    EP
     
  2. rooster

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    These are my thoughts:

    If you like the sound, playability, and finish (even though it's not exactly what you were expecting), and feels right to you, I'd take the cash! I'd look into swapping the p/ups, and possibly throwing in a small bypass cap on the volume control to keep the highs when you turn down.

    Don't send it back unless it's hideous.

    rooster.
     
  3. enharmonic

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    He misrepresented the product. I'd get in touch with safe harbor. You shouldn't have to lay out a dime to get the guitar you thought you won.
     
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    I'm with enharmonic: You did not receive the guitar you bought. I'd jerk the guy around just to make a point, and you should NOT be incurring any additional expenses.
     
  5. electronpirate

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    He did misrepresent. I think the both of you are right to push it. And I will....but:

    Tonight I played this thing for over 3 hours with another friend who owns alot of guitars (Brian Setzer Gretsch, Dean 'V', 70's Les Paul, upscale Strat.) We had intended to play for 15 minutes and leave it alone. Didn't happen.

    We both agreed. This is the most MUSICAL, best sounding Les Paul that we've ever played. Even with the questionable pups, this thing makes every tone sing, every note distinct. It's one of those guitars that you do not want to put down. It plays itself practically. Most of you know what I'm talking about. It is comfortable (admittedly heavy!), your fingers fly over the fretboard, incredibly responsive to attack. One day I'll have to figure out what the deal is with that; how one (of the same model) guitar can be so uncomfortable, while another is like coming home.

    Never mind the damn thing's a copy, this is one keeper instrument.

    So I'll take that money. To hell with the issue. My experience with any guitar in general is that the same model guitar can sound completely different (different wood, whatever.) It still is a great sounding guitar and I'm rapidly falling in lust.

    EP
     
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    yeah, i say keep it and take the money. if you like a guitar that much, its not worth taking the chance on getting a stinker in return.

    but that guy should quit posting those pics on different auctions, it worked out well this time(sounds like more than well actually :dude) but it might not in the future if he keeps it up.
     
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    I agree. It worked out well. I have no idea how the other Tokai Love Rock's are, but this one is really incredible to believe.

    No clue how to proceed. I feel like I should let others know that there's a possible problem here, but it worked out so damn well for me that I'm obligated to leave positive feedback. Just wish that the feedback had more lines I could leave for a full review. He's been very responsive...

    My fingers are tingling, I've played for the last 5 hours, broken 2 strings, and still want to fire the damn thing up...guess who's hooked, rejuvenated.

    EP
     
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    This is a Japanese Tokai, not a Korean, yes?
     
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    Get the cash prior to leaving feedback and then leave POS. feedback with a note that says "make sure the guitar in picture is the one you are getting. GREAT GUITARS!!" Or something in the same ballpark. Then everyone is happy.
     
  10. Pete Galati

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    If you decided to keep it, let's see some pictures! When you use the word "porn", I expect to see some pictures!

    And I like seeing pictures of Gibson alternatives anyhow.

    Pete
     
  11. WordMan

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    Here ya go then:

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    A Top of the Line 80's Burny RLG-120 - actual solid flamed top, not solid plain maple with a flamed veneer laminated on. Selling it on eBay to make money to fund a vintage purchase - and it bums me out since is a great player, but let's just say I am trying to maintain peace at home...

    now, if someone could tell me how to get images into these posts that aren't so freakin' BIG, I would be a happy man...sorry all.
     
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    Suprisingly, no, this is one of the Korean Tokai's.

    Pics pending. Wife is out of town with the digital camera.
     
  14. Slipjack

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    I've got a korean Agile LP copy with similar results as far as quality. $100 on sale and the quality is outstanding. Better than most Epiphone LPs I've picked up, never really cared for the real deal Gibsons especially considering their outrageous price tags.

    I'm thinking of putting Seth Lovers in to replace the ceramic pups. The stock pups are decent for what they are, but better can be had.

    Congratulations on finding your gem. Korean guitars seem to be getting better in quality as of late.
     
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    Congrats man! If the guitar works then forget about the rest.

    As for pics of LP copies...

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  16. electronpirate

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    That is a good lookin' guitar.

    The only thing mine doesn't have is the 'Aztec' pearl inlay. Just block inlays.
     

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