The earliest RAT 2’s share the same circuit as the non led blackfaces, I have both and they’re both superb.The blackface rats from around 86 are excellent. I know very little, but think the ones without the LED sound better. I had a Rat2 that didn’t come close to my ears, even after having it modded.
I’m curious about the Winford drive, but that’s another story. When it comes to rats (and wahs), simpler is better
Maybe I had a bad rat2. This was before anyone was cloning them. In comparison, the rat2 was brighter, more raw sounding. Not as smooth, creamy and warm.The earliest RAT 2’s share the same circuit as the non led blackfaces, I have both and they’re both superb.
This is the mystery of the rat. When you're playing by yourself, they always sound wonky, sometimes thin, or too fizzy. I've definitely sold some Rat clones after being frustrated by their tone.I have a love/hate relationship with my Rat. I love my Whiteface 85’ reissue and will never sell it but sometimes when I haven’t played it in a while and I try it again, I struggle to make it work with my rig. Other times I just love the thing! I think sometimes it might just cut a bit too much bass.
Yep, that makes total sense. One of the best tones I ever got live was with a Rat. I believe the distortion was set below 12 but it was great.This is the mystery of the rat. When you're playing by yourself, they always sound wonky, sometimes thin, or too fizzy. I've definitely sold some Rat clones after being frustrated by their tone.
But in a band context, Rats seem to boost the right frequencies and cut through. Hearing them in context is a must.
Big Muffs (IMO) often have the opposite problem. They sound awesome when you're playing in the bedroom, but get lost in a bigger band context without some help (boosted mids etc).
Does anyone here have any experience with the EHX Flatiron Fuzz?? I've been wanting to pick one up and try it because I know I like the rat sound and have a pretty decent EHX collection happening. However I saw no mention of it whatsoever in this thread....