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Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs' started by Zander, Jul 17, 2005.
I know about the weber cali, but are there others out there? how about the new eminence line?
I've never seen any JBL D120 clones, however Eminence can build you anything you want. I think they already build some 4" voice coil type speakers. Give them a call.
good to know. didn't even imagine they would do custom work.
EMI made a Jblish spk for Fender reissue Vibroverb IIRC
The Weber CAs are really nice, esp paper dome
I've heard a lot of good things about the weber calis, but was curious if anyone else was doing something with the jbl vibe. jI would have thought that eminence would have somthing in their patriot line since they seem to have everything else covered.
I just shot them an email I let you know what they say.
Standel (?) was making an Alnico inspired by these vintage JBLs... perhaps no longer made. Was reviewed in the Guitar Player mag Alnico shootout...
Aren't the Weber Cali's about 200w shy of a JBL?
I'm pretty sure Beyma will most likely do the 15"s since they are starting on the 12"s.
Original JBL D120F speakers don't handle a lot of power. I think 60 watts is about the maximum. They often blew when installed as OEM speakers in Twin Reverbs, and both Duane Allman and Dickey Betts destroyed a truckload between them. The K120, and especially the E120 can withstand much more power.
I asked them the same thing once, I believe the response was the Delta 12 was the closest they made to the D120.
I got a email from them stating that they don't make a clone, but to keep checking their site.
Hope this isn't a faux pas but figured this thread was the perfect starting point!
I too am looking for JBL D120 (or E120) clones since most originals are outrageously priced and right off the bat need to be reconed. Yuck. Seems hard to justify spending $700 bucks on a pair of speakers plus shipping to me then shipping them out to be reconed then shipped back. That's like $1000 and too much time in transit for my tastes.
Here is what I see that we have as our choices:
Peavey 1203s ( 15" = 1501DT) Black Widow
EVM L12 (I think)
Tone Tubby Ceramic
Here is are good things that I read:
Maybe there are more? Does anyone have any experience with these?
I've got a Cali in a combo and it's a great speaker but looking for something different for my next cab.
Are you sure? I've got orange JBL D120Fs in my Twin...I thought they were about 75w? What power rating would be 'safe' in a Twin anyway?
Sandman, as I understand it (which might be way off base) is really two-fold: 1. The difference between 60-75 is really quite minimal and when you combine the 2 speakers it makes it "safer" for an amp that puts out 85-100W.
2. But also back in the day before sound reinforcement the amps were cranking above 7 or 8 on the dial which would be more likely to blow the speaker compared to today usages whereby most clubs a gigging musician would play would have your Twin mic'd if you would have a need to crank it up past 4 or 5.
thanks, I figured that too. What confused me is that JBLs are usually described as loud, clean, efficient...
Where to find exact specifications? What's the wattage of Jensens in a Twin in comparison?
I have a Very good working cond,gray frame D120F 250.00 shipped
What is your experience with the Commonwealth? Any AB comparisons to the JBLs or any of the other clones?
Nice! If you had a pair of them I'd be interested..
A friend who owns a music store and I did side by side comparisons, The JBL D131F was the best sounding speaker in our test. Next was the D120F and the tonetubby was close but it sounded like it had a stack of blankets on it in comparison. In all fairness the JBL's were well broken in and the Tonetubby was still fairly new.
I haven't tried the commonwealth but I will be interested. I have a Musicman HD130 I'm looking for speakers for. The Weber michigans were what was recommended but I sent Weber a couple e-mails asking if that is the speaker he would recommend and I never heard anything back from him.
Ihave a JBL120F and a K120F all in ex. cond.And they sound most the same to me except the K120 is rated at more power.