Jeff Beck Truth...

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  1. wingwalker

    wingwalker Fuzzy Guitars

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    Vox or Colorsound Wah???

    MK II or MK III???
     
  2. slegros

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    Pretty sure it was a VOX wah....

    As for fuzz it was a Marshall Supa Fuzz. (Theres pics around somewhere-hard to miss the shape of the Supa fuzz housing...)

    The early ones(as used by Beck on Truth) were basically identical to the Colorsound Tonebender Mk2, but the Supa Fuzz almost exclusively used OC75 trannies, wheres the Colorsound often ran OC81s. Later versions of the Supa Fuzz (late '69 or early '70) changed a few component values making them a bit darker. The BYOC Mk2 will get you great Truth tones, they come with some very nice NOS OC75s.

    On Truth he also ran Fuzz BEFORE Wah... Mk2s dont like going after wahs.....
     
  3. wingwalker

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    I have it on good report that ALL Supa Fuzz pedals used OC75's, which FWIW, is cool with me.

    Anyway...anybody else got any insight???
     
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    Very early Supa Fuzzes had Impex Transistors. There's one of these on ebay at the moment. MKIIs were commonly equipped with OC75 as well as OC81D transistors. I believe the only change in the Supa Fuzz circuit in '68 or '69 was the removal of the limiting resistor, which limited the max gain. Otherwise, I believe it has always been darker than the MKII. I've seen pics of Beck using a Vox Wah live during the Truth era, along with the Supa Fuzz and Marshall Amps. I have heard that in the studio he used pre-Colorsound Solasound Wahs, which were based on the Clyde circuit. Some people believe he used a Colorsound, but owning a Colorsound and a Supa Fuzz I can tell you it doesn't do Beck's Truth wah tones. Not vocal enough before the Supa and too extreme after.
     
  5. drolling

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    The man's always sounded great, regardless of his rig..

    Having said that, I've been tweaking a VOX-847 and after putting in a yellow Fasel. one of the guys in the band said "very Jeff Beck..

    The new inductor did add that vowely, vomity thing that works great for tunes like "Ain't Superstious"..
     
  6. wingwalker

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    Thanks guys...I always thought a MK II (or supa) and a Vox wah as well but recently was told I was crazy, just wanted to get a few more opinions!

    So, drolling the new yellow fasels do the vomit wah tone well??? I don't want that tone all the time but it would be nice as an option for sure!
     
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    I beleive I read Jeff Beck has been using one of the Snarling Dog Wah`s as of late!
     
  8. wingwalker

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    He did use the one with the built in ring mod for a while but since putting his old Maestro Ring Mod back on his board he's gone back to a Vox wah...
     
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    Thing is with Jeff you shouldn't trust his answers to interviews........
    I asked Mickie Most about this record and Jeff's (mostly) big fat guitar sound. A lot of his work was recorded in the vocal booth and miced from the outside, the door was opened further (or less) dependent on his overall volume. They had a lot of complaints over "noise" from the neighbours.

    Also around this time they recorded something called "I've been drinking" (or something like that) and imo it had Jeff's worst recorded tone ever........whereas in my humble opinion "Rock My Plimsoul" has one of his best. It is arguable though.

    Best, Pete.
     
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    Yes - and in spite of what some say, it's not a subtle thing, IMO. I bought both the red & yellow versions when Dunlop reissued them; the red one's definitely an improvement over the stock V-847 inductor, as well as whatever they use in the standard Dunlop GCB-95.

    Not as dramatic as my old Colorsound fuzzwah, which I never really liked truth be told, but a simple & cheap mod that's well worth doing if you're looking for another flavor of *vintage* wah tone.

    As you say, I wouldn't want to be stuck with that sound all the time (I've got 3 other wahs:jo:NUTS!) but it's nice to have in the trick bag..
     
  11. Improviser

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    When I saw him live a couple of weeks ago in Sydney he had the Snarling Dogs wah on there, along with a gold 'horsie' Klon.
     
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    Hmm...pics from a few months afo showed the Vox wah and the Maestro Ring Mod...I guess he's still making up his mind or, like the rest of us he just swaps stuff around on a whim!
     
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    Here is Jeff Beck's pedal board

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  14. Dog Boy

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    Wow not a Rat in sight...unless its somewhere else...
     
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    I've seen that pic, more recent pics swapped the H&K Tube Factor for a Klon and the most recent shots I saw also swapped the Snarling Dogs wah for a Vox but maybe he does prefer the Snarling Dogs!

    BTW...the Rat has been gone for a while now...when Jeff started using the DSL's he dumped the Rat pedal
     
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    That's a Rotosphere, not Tube Factor.
     
  17. wingwalker

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    SO IT IS! I've never heard him even use that thing...Cool!
     
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    Blow by Blow. I never get sick of that album.
     
  19. DucRyder

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    So which tonebender for the Truth album?
     
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    A Mk II clone, of which I've played many, and all of which sound a little different from one another (I've never played an original.) Currently I'm getting 'Truth' sounds with the a Marshall Supa Fuzz clone, which's on the dark side of the Mk II sound world.
     

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