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Discussion in 'The Sound Hound Lounge' started by Jon Silberman, Nov 3, 2019.
Let's not kid ourselves. Jim Irsay will buy this too.
A few miscellaneous pics from the gallery, coolest one is annotated lyrics to Passenger, in Jerry's hand according to the sign:
I know it's an iconic guitar but I see pictures and all I see is some old, modded Strat like any other you can find in a pawn shop.
I'm sure people were modding Strats back then but not in the numbers they were in the 80's -> today. definitely not to the extent this one was....remember it would be early 1972 this was done. I'd wager it's the first modded Strat to be played by a rock star, on stage across years, and on record, but I could be wrong.
It’s most likely the first truly custom modified guitar around, at least in a widely known capacity.
Partscasters and pickup swapping are one thing but the amount of changes made to this guitar and the nature of them this one pretty much kickstarted alembic and the entire custom guitar industry.
I’d imagine anybody else altering guitars back then was just tinkering and changing parts around. Alligator was full-bore experimental.
It may look like a pawn shop guitar but it’s the Big Bang of pawn shop guitars IMO
Thanks for the pics @johnnyb128 !!!! I like them better than the auction pics! I’m fascinated by all the slotted head screws they used for the modifications.
those pickups are up there, too. I never realized the brass was hand-hammered like that. So cool.
I was fortunate to see and hear Garcia play the Alligator at six shows. As recordings bear out, it sounded like no other guitar at that time. For me, a big part of the excitement about seeing him perform back then was knowing the guitar tones would be different—in an interesting way—than they had been before.
Great perspective, thanks for sharing that. I can imagine at the time, if you were a guitarist, to have heard Alligator and then Wolf + the Wall within a year, it must have been incredible. Really unique, it’s something easily forgotten from the point of view of today and generations of copycats.
Even for me, coming at it for the first time in March 90, Jerry was getting sounds out of his MIDI rig that were so unique to my young ears. Knowing nothing about the tech it was a “hows he doing that???” type of situation. Comparing back from today, I much prefer the early sound but he had a knack for doing unique stuff his whole life didn’t he?
Out of curiosity, do you remember the dates of those shows? I’ve listened to nearly all of ‘72 and most of the best of ‘73 and haven’t heard a bad one yet, in fact, they’re the best I’ve ever heard.
Wow very interesting, If I had to pick only one GD album Europe 72 would be it and this is the guitar on the album. It's not as sexy as Wolf and Tiger, but it's definitely up there in significance.
Also cool to see Garcia's GK250ML in that amp collection pic, I still have mine from the late 80's.
I like the Sunshine Daydream original looking 50's burst strat for Jerry strat tones. Wonder where that one ended up?
It's possible he gave it to David Hidalgo of Los Lobos fame who says it's a '58 (at 10:30, should be queued):
Wayne Kramer was using a modded Strat (humbucker in the middle) with the MC5 in '69.
Looks like he still is too. Thankfully he dropped the poofy shirt:
oh yeah. Like that second outfit much better
"How soon they forget..."