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Discussion in 'The Sound Hound Lounge' started by Colors, May 18, 2011.
ShoeGaze owes as much to Hendrix as anyone. Yes?
Most genre owe somthing to jimi ...from industrial to rap. country might be the exception..but not willing to risk saying nay.
As crazy as that might sound I kinda see your point there. Tone-wise I really can see it for sure.
I think that we need a Manhattan Project to define the roots of Shoegaze. C'mon, who's with me?
Jimi had some gorgeous, dreamy, ethereal songs.
Shoegaze? Not familiar with the label. Examples?
My Bloody Valentine is probably the best and most famous example.
Weird. We didn't consider MBV or any band of that era to be called that around here. I just looked it up. Odd label trying to categorize art based on how a musician stands while playing. If that were true all but those that move are "shoegaze". YoYo Ma is "shoegaze".
Totally disagree - shoegaze music was never about showmanship, virtuosity, or flamboyancy. Shoegaze bands for the most part never had frontmen, or even in many cases discernable lyrics (MBV being a prime example).
Hendrix's arrangements, the way he and his bandmates played the parts, the flashiness live - total antithesis of shoegaze music. The name shoegaze was bestowed on these bands because they mostly stared at the floor.
About the only thing these bands have in common with Hendrix is that they both played guitars really fu*king loud.
Swervedriver is the logical conclusion of Hendrix-as-shoegazer. -E
Guitar as central instrument -- check
loud -- check
lots of effects -- check
wammee bar -- check
feedback -- check
But Jimi's songs were may more involved if traditionally structured and featured, obviously, amazing guitar solos.
I would say the shoegaze bands shared a certain 'sonic palette' with Jimi Hendrix but Jimi took it to way more diverse and interesting places. Jimi's palette was also alot more diverse: not much shoegaze in, say, 'The Wind Cries Mary'
I would actually say the Velvet Underground with Nico is the closest thing to 'proto shoegaze' because of their drones, feedback and deadpan female vocals. Add a bit more distortion and effects to this and this could easily be 1990:
How the bands looked on stage may have been where the 'shoegaze' expression came from but it has come to be used to describe a certain type of loud, slow, droney, hypnotic music and really doesn't have anything to do with how the bands stand on stage. That said, head down, hair in face, standing still really was a pretty consistent pose with these bands.
and Hendrix didn't have the guitar around his kness standing flat footed looking straight down with bad posture....and 'shoegaze' is all about the open chords and barre chords which Jimi rarely played if ever....shoegaze is all about drenched echo...Hendrix NEVER used one live and rarely in the studio.
Did he really only have a few effects? It always seemed to me that, for the time, he experimented and recorded with tons of effects, and tried out just about anything that he could get his hands on.
The only commonality to Hendrix is that he may have gazed at his shoes from time to time, like most people.
third stone from the sun... proto sungaze
Here's the big difference between Hendrix and MOST shoegaze-type bands. ............. Hendrix could play the guitar!........ZING!
perhaps. i think it owes much more to the velvet underground.