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Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs' started by paulvcarter, Jan 22, 2019.
You can buy quite a few original Supro/Valco's for that money.
As a very happy owner of a Park amplifier built by Mister Colby’s company, I’m pretty damn excited about the production model.
I think this is the right team to make that amp.
At $12,500, I wouldn't think that it would be a very good investment.
Listening to the Tone Mob podcast right now with @analogmike and he said he’s one of the guys who bought the Sundragon amp. We want to hear about it Mike! And hear it with a SunBender in front
I want to hear it with my guitars in front of it
Of course. Just going with the Jimmy Page Tone Bender/Supro thing
Oh yea...... I’d throw a MKII TB in the mix for good measure
What gets me is they put a Jensen P12Q speaker in it (according to the article in this month's issue of Vintage Guitar Magazine).
It's not a very good speaker. I have one in my Fender Princeton and it sucks.
A $12,500 amp and they stick a $139.23 speaker in it.
What a royal rip off.
$12,500 is a silly price but if the bulk of the profits that JP is getting are being donated to Charity (which JP often does & has been noted for) then it's a good thing IMHO.
Dumble put a $49 speaker in one of his combo amps. I rather the builder use their ears than put in some speaker they think the consumer wants.
kind of disappointing he priced it for millionaires. Oh well, his legacy to make it what he wants.
He can never take away from me that I saw Zeppelin for $12 though.
And some Dumbles sound pretty bland while others sound stellar. Well that might explain why.
I know this was posted a while ago, but which Ampeg Gemini? I, II, VI? I uses 12" speaker, II & VI use 15", and there are other differences... But which one did SIBLY?
They put a Jensen reissue in the handwired Deluxe Reverb.
I’ll be honest, it may not be the best speaker in a modern application, but if you are chasing that tone, there isn’t much better.
They are cheap speakers because they were cheap speakers made back in the day. We are in a golden age of speaker options today, but back in the day, it was Jensen, Oxford, etc, and it wasn’t some high tech build with a hemp cone. It’s a thin paper cone, some doping, and a weak ceramic magnet in many cases. And that contributed to the tone.
I’d say be thankful they aren’t trying to charge you $250 for the re-creation
All 50 amps at $12,500 is only about half million. If Jimmy wanted to make money I can think of many ways he could make a lot more than that. He's worth about 170 million.
Everybody is entitled to his opinion of course, but you are basing your opinion on very little information. As I said in every interview about the amp I tried over 40 modern and vintage speakers to duplicate the sounds from Jimmy's original amp and speaker which I had in my shop for a month in order to do this very comparison. The Jensen P12Q was chosen entirely for the tone it produced in the amp. Cost had nothing to do it. I tried many Celestions, including Alnicos and vintage G12Ms with Pulsonic cones, Scumback, Warehouse, vintage Oxfords with original cones and various recones. I was surprised how good the Jensen sounded (it's not my favorite speaker either) but the clear choice was the Jensen. Plus we are breaking in every speaker before installing it in the amp.
How cool was it having the original in your shop?!
I have a sweet 50's white stripe supro Golden Holiday, and can attest that these sound pretty drastically different with a variety of speakers in it. The problem after trying a few is I miss portions of each because the amp changes so much depending on the speaker! I may have to check out one of these jensen reissues in it now!
Well then. My opinion is that you will not match the tone of the Sundragon with any Supro, new or old. So says everyone who has tried it.