JJ Gold Pin 12AX7's

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  1. jhc

    jhc Senior Member

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    Has anyone tried the new JJ ECC83S or ECC80s Gold Pin tubes? Worth the $20? Better than the Tung Sol reissues?
     
  2. Mike9

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    I didn't like JJ 12ax7s - their EL84s are killer. I ended up putting Ei Elite golds in and they are great preamp tubes. The GT 12ax7Ms are pretty nice too if you are going for that Marshall tone.
     
  3. rockon1

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    JJ's are nice tubes. One of my favorite new production. I wouldnt bother paying extra for gold pins though. Im pretty sure other than that they are identical. Tungs Sols are nice too.
     
  4. Blue Strat

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    Gold pins have absolutely no effect on tone but resist oxidation and provide a more reliable contact than steel pinned tubes.
     
  5. Darth Tater

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    I agree on the gold pins..what's the use?

    So far the JJ ECC83S is the cat's arse in my Soldano, and I've tried most. Two noteables I have not tried are the Tung Sol's and the $50+ NOS tubes...but those never were an option :)
     
  6. Red Planet

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    JJ makes some damn good Vacuum Tubes.
     
  7. thedave

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    Mike,
    The construction of your sentence leads me to believe you meant to say, "Gold pins have absolutely [no] effect on tone but . . ."

    Is that correct?
    thedave
     
  8. rockon1

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    Thats what I said......and I ended up with over 500 of them....:jo
     
  9. Blue Strat

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    yes! Good eye, thanks for catching that.:AOK
     
  10. jhc

    jhc Senior Member

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    Thanks for all the responses
     
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    Another JJ fan here!
     
  12. jhc

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    Has anyone directly compared the JJs to the Tung-Sol reissues? I was pretty happy when I got rid of my stock Sovteks and replaced them with JJs, but you know how the urge to tweak goes (and I sadly dont have the funds for the holy grail NOS stuff)
     
  13. Blue Strat

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    Almost everyone I talk to considers the Tung Sol "Reissue" 12AX7s an upgrade from ALL other new production 12AX7s. YMMV.
     
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    I used to hate JJ preamp tubes. I love their E34L's and KT77's but I found the preamp tubes harsh and thin but recently I went out on a limb and bought some new ones and I really love them now. I still think that their KT77's are the best tubes going right now for EL34 amps but now I'm also about the preamp tubes.
     
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    I have in four different amps. Now I don't bother - Tung-Sol always goes in V1, as it just sounds better to my ears. Really sweet high end, and increased clarity over the JJ.

    I like the JJ, but I tend to use one rated for higher gain in a V2, or an average-gain one as a reverb driver (for my Goblin, which needs a 12AX7 in this slot). Good tube, just not as good as the Tung-Sol reissue. :)
     
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    I like the way these sound (though they sound nothing like a real Tung Sol). I've had a bunch of em go bad though. The JJ stuff seems to be more robust and longer lasting.

    I recently had the good luck to run across some NOS GE 6550's and bought some JJ KT88 so my Builder could set a Bias Circuit to thatn type of tube without shipping my GE's. Anyway long story short I like the sound of the JJ KT88's way more than thge NOS GE 6550's. Those tubes have given me a new thirst for Tubedome.
     
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    I really don't like JJ 12AX7's or their 6L6's, but I really like their EL34's, 84's and 6V6's alot!
     
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    Total zombie thread, but I recently put a JJ Gold in my Kingsley Jouster in V1.
    Smashes the Tung-Sol I had in there.
    More gain, quiet lots of upper mid clarity yet the bass is tight. Very happy with them.
     
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    I got to say JJ's are consistent. I bought an unmodded AC15C1 last month. Stock according to seller. I put some JJ el84's in it today. Amp already had some JJ el84's and 12ax7's installed So someone's done some tube upgrades. New ones sounded identical to the old ones. I thought the amp sounded pretty damn good from the gitgo. Now I have a spare pair of a tubes that don't wear out.
     
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    My experience with Tung Sol's is that they DO affect the basic EQ of an amp with flat settings …
    If you really like the sound of the amp just the way it is …
    No need to even try Tung Sols (IMO). In fact, they might work against you ...

    However if there's a kind of brittle, trebly effect you'd like to round off of the top a bit …
    or feel you need to thicken up your midrange slightly … they are just the ticket.

    Caution … because if you really like a certain kind of brightness, high end 'snap' you already have in a particular amp…
    Tung Sols might diminish that (then you'll get pissed off you spent so much … lol)
     

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