Just ordered a Analogman CV7005 Sunface... (NOW WITH CLIPS)

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  1. friend33

    friend33 Silver Supporting Member

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    As I understand it, the trannies are labeled alphabetically from A-to-Z according to gain level, low to high.

    The 2006/07 ones you had would have been "normal" gain. Normal seems to cover most of the alphabet, high gain maybe starting somewhere around s? They only recently came out doing some true low gain white dots.
     
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  2. BluesHarp

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    Normal gain? Wow.. that's not mentioned very often. It's normally low gain or high game and that's it. The G is pretty low.. I wonder if that's the last or the first transistor and which of the two is the more critical or is more responsible for controlling the overall flavor?
     
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    zosozep7 Gold Supporting Member

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    Have to look into ths!
     
  4. Windup 43

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    I have a medium gain CV7005 on the way, I've been using my faithful MJM London Ge smallbox w/bias for years (old school build) and have never had the desire to try anything else since acquiring it. It'll be stiff competition for the Sunface, but I've always loved the Analogman stuff...still have my Pep Fuzz and BC108 Sunface, love them. Recently sold off my MkIV, but couldn't really justify the price tag as it wasn't getting a lot of play time.
     
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  5. Tiny Montgomery

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    I'm not sure what you mean. The normal gain ones are the most talked about and sought after. They were the ones am ran out of, first, too. There were still high and low gain ones available for a while, after the normal gain ones were gone.
     
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    Where do you see these transistor ratings? I just received mine today but cannot see anything obvious that would tell me.

     
  7. rickfish99

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    If it's a CV7005 the letter ratings are on the ends of the trannies. You can also see "Low" and "High" printed on the circuit board under the trannies. I just received one today and it's High: Q - Low: J.
    Notice the J on the end of the top transistor:
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  8. Frostbite Slim

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    Come on guys...this is all I need right now :)

    I'm REAL close to just pulling the trigger on one of these even though it's the last thing I NEED!

    Besides the clean up, do the CV7005 provide some substantial GIRTH? That's a must for a Fuzz for me.

    I'm looking at getting the ...

    Sundial
    LED (green)
    On/Off fuzz pot

    So here's s silly question, but with the Fuzz Maxed, is there a lot of the "white noise" hiss? Some fuzzes I've tried in the past have ALOT of the White Noise
     
  9. cbpickin

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    I just got one last week, and it is pretty quiet for a fuzz face. No extra noise to speak of; it is thick and a little woolly with fuzz knob all the way up. Definitely not thin sounding; it has plenty of girth. It cleans up really well also. It is a great fuzz.
     
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    It's not that noisy directly with my Maz 18, and the fuzz is maxed on mine. If I stack it with another gain pedal, yeah it get more noisy, but i'm good with it.
     
  11. friend33

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    Not sure I am following you about markings on the circuitboard? :huh

    Q and J labels would typically be mid or "normal" gain transistors, neither high nor low...(alphabetically ranked)...
     
  12. rickfish99

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    You would have to ask Mike at Analogman for sure but I would imagine the high and low markings on the circuit board are for their use in wiring the pedal. The higher gain tranny would go in the high location and vice versa. I asked Mike for gain settings as close to the NKT white dots as possible.
    Hope this helps,
    Rick
     
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    Anyone have any indication of Analog Mikes " rating" system and a Numerical Value for the transistors?
     
  14. friend33

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    My sense over the years:

    Low = A-G or thereabouts

    High = S/T-Z or thereabouts

    Rest of the range is "normal" gain.

    I have no documentable scientific data over the years to prove my point, other than ones I have owned and ones I've seen gut shots for.

    Maybe @analogmike will weigh in? :YinYang
     
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  15. analogmike

    analogmike Gold Supporting Member Vendor

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    There are also Greek symbols for higher than Z :)
     
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    So what coresponding numerical values would that be :)
     
  17. friend33

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    :eek:
     
  18. Jahn

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    Loving my low gain!

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    I'd like to know as well. My friends and I have these ratings in our Sunfaces:

    High Gain White Dot NKT-275 (V, Z)
    Standard Gain Ti/UK (W, Delta)
    Standard Gain CV7005 (M, R)

    The Ti/UK has less gain than the HG NKT despite the letters. The CV has very little gain...extremely warm and fat. I in no way would call it standard gain, but by the letters it seems like it should have more gain.
     
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  20. Frostbite Slim

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    Very interesting. A CV that is "extremely warm and fat" sounds like the PERFECT Fuzz for me!!

    Perhaps I'll request M , R gain CV transistors
     

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