Just put TV Jones in...

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  1. 909one

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    I just put some TV Jones Filtertrons in my '67 Gretsch Double Anniversary and wow!!!! It completely transformed the guitar into something sublime!
    Those Hilotrons that were on there were kinda cool in a unique way, but holy crap these pickups make the guitar sound like the Gretsch I have always wanted. I have owned a few Japanese Reissue Gretsches nad kept selling them because they weren't exactly right. Standard Filtertrons are a little brittle on the top end but these are not at all. At high volumes I could never even use the neck pickup on the Japanese Gretches that I had in the past, it got too muddy and just was a feed-back hell. But with the TV Jones the neck still cuts through.

    I was really on the fence with this purchase because they are so pricey... $250 for a set. But they are well worth the money.

    Btw... I am not affiliated with TV Jones at all. Just excited when you find something good!
     
  2. DamianL

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    ooooooohhhhhh, stop tempting me!!!!!!:hide
     
  3. FrankieSixxxgun

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    Join the club, brother! I stuck a set of TV Classics in my pre-Fender '01 Tennessee Rose in place of the ceramic Filter'Trons and holy crap! That guitar instantly became one of my favorites. All the hype about those pickups is true.
     
  4. 909one

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    The only other time i have heard such an abrupt change was when i put Lollars in my Tele.

    I am blown away.

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  5. SHM

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    I but T V Jones classics in my Setzer hot rod 97. Wow!!! Different guitar now.

    Cheers

    Søren
     
  6. Gas-man

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    Yrup---I put some in my Electromatic Elliot Easton and whammo!

    The hype is all true.
     
  7. FrankieSixxxgun

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    This thread would be so much better with some Gretsch porn. Post your guitars.
     
  8. Zexcoil

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    I've been toying with this for awhile.

    I've got a Japanese 6118 Anniversary.

    How hard was it to do? That's really the only thing that has delayed me, the prospect of changing pu'ps in a hollowbody is daunting.

    Which ones did you go with?
     
  9. FrankieSixxxgun

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    It's not too hard, but it is a pain in the butt. You'll be doing a lot of cavity fishing to get the pots back in. What I did that worked was take some small gauge wire tied into a noose, and then slipped that around the shaft of the pots before I dropped them into the guitar. That way I could pull them out, solder the pickups to 'em, then pull them back through the hole with the wore. Slide the washer and nut down the wire, fasten it up, and you're golden. Other people use fish tank tube slid over the pot shaft I hear, but I didn't have any. The wire I used was out of an old phone cable.
     
  10. Blauserk

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    Did you go with the TV Classics?

    I have PowerTrons in my 2006 Power Tenny (outstanding guitar, by the way), but based on some TV Classics I used to have in a Koll, I suspect they would be more to my liking.
     
  11. Tinman

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    I use small diameter surgical tubing. It makes the job pretty easy. Just stretch it over the shaft, undo the nut and let 'em fall in.
     
  12. FrankieSixxxgun

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    I went with straight up TV Classics in my Tenny, not even the "Classic Plus" bridge they offer. I love weak humbuckers, they let the amp do more of what it's supposed to do and they respond better to boost pedals for lead. I like all of my pickups to fall in that 7-9k range, and coincidentally my 3 favorite guitars are right there on the money.
     
  13. Zexcoil

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  14. 909one

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    Wiring the electronics was the easy part for me.

    Vintage Gretsches with Hilotrons don't have the proper sized cavities for Filtertrons. I had take a router to my 40 year old Gretsch! That was a harrowing experience. Some people might think I am crazy for doing that. Yes, Its going to diminish the value of the guitar, but it increases the playability of the instrument 10 fold to me. I like playing instruments, not collecting them, so I did it. Its not like I put a Floyd Rose on it or something. ;)

    It put the TV Classics in there. These are the only humbuckers I don't hate. Yes, low output is much better IMO. Because of the low output, they also tend to have a flatter, if not almost scooped mid range. I love this. I hate humbuckers with honky midrange.

    The TV's in my Gretsch is a perfect match with my Ceriatone Bandmaster. I don't even need a distortion pedal. With the ZVEX Super Duper, it over drives the amp perfectly. I am pretty happy with the setup now.
     
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    My favorites are all in the 6-9K range and I don't like my pickups too near my strings on any guitar. I like to let the amp work for it, and dynamics seem easier. Pedals are more controllable too.
     
  16. 5E3

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    Congrats! :AOK

    Now, why can't the manufacturers put those excellent pickups in at the factory? :stir :BITCH
     
  17. sinner

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    My new G5120 upgraded with TV Jones pickups:

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    Loving the tone, great neck pickup perfect for jazz, blues, rock; still need to raise up the bridge a little closer to strings (pickup is slanted down on the treble side, came a bit loose in shipping). I'm thinking that's all it needs, a little more height to balance with the neck output.

    What a versatile guitar!
     
  18. Zexcoil

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    Well,

    I took the plunge. I had bought a set of TV Jones Classics.

    Unfortunately, they showed up the same day that I had surgery to remove a ganglion cyst on my picking hand. What they didn't tell me before the surgery was that my right hand would be basically immobilized for 10 days!!!

    Anyway, this weekend it started feeling OK (I had the splint taken off and replaced with a brace on day six or so), I was playing a lot on Saturday, and Sunday I figured I was well enough to do the pickup swap.

    I used clear rubber tubing from Lowes to hold the pots. 1/4" ID was a good size. I still had to take the nut off, as it wouldn't clear the tubing, so I just loosened the nut, held my finger up under the pot, then removed the nut and snugged the tubing over the shaft while still holding the pot in place from underneath. I little tricky, and one of the pots is a bit of a reach, but doable. I used about two feet for each pot. I only had to remove the two rear pots that the pickups are directly wired to. Everything else had enough slop that I could get the pots and the p'ups out with enough clearance to do the soldering.

    One thing I didn’t realize and that I hadn’t seen noted anywhere when people talked about doing this swap, is that all of the wiring was tied together with a clamp under the top, about under the bridge or maybe a little forward of that. I had to open this clamp up and free up the wires to be able to remove the pots and p’ups.

    I got it finished up last night and played it a bit. Very nice. The TV Jones are much more articulate and have that milky twang that I wasn't quite getting from the stock p'ups.

    Also, the stock p'ups seemed to be mismatched. One of them had a flange on the bottom and the other didn't. Also the leads were coming out in different places on the two. Has anyone else noticed anything like this?
     
  19. fieldhdj

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    Sorry about the poor quality pic..

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    L - R: PowerJet, 6121 (w/TV Classics), Power Tenny.

    I have a 5120 (not pictured) with a P90 in the neck and a TVJ Magna'tron in the bridge. I love 'em all.
     
  20. Dave Orban

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    I've got a Magnatron in the neck position of my parts Coppercaster, and it is VERY nice, indeed! :dude
     

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