Kahler trems

[Harsh59]

Is there any place to buy Kahler Trems besides there own website . A 2300 Kahler runs $330 , I don't know if this is a MSRP and they can be found for less . I've looked and can't seem to find them anywhere .

 

[EADGBE]

Are you replacing an old one?

 

[Harsh59]

No , putting it on a Carvin Bolt (Strat knock off) . It has a fixed bridge , so no routing for springs or block . Thought these might just bolt on .

 

[cardinal]

Any Kahler will need routing underneath it. There's a spring mechanism that needs room and extends underneath the bridge plate.

 

[Whiskeyrebel]

A Wonderbar would mount on a flat surface without routing, but the things are rarely seen.

Stetsbar is a currently-available option but not an inexpensive one.

 

[Killed_by_Death]

You'll definitely need to route it for a Kahler vibrato system.
Get a Dual Fulcrum, which won't require a locking nut:

http://g-l-online-store.myshopify.com/collections/bridges/products/g-l-dual-fulcrum-vibrato

 

[rstites]

I'll echo above. The Kahler needs a big route. Look around for 80's Charvels, Jacksons, and other shredder types guitars (except Kramers) and you'll find a lot of Kahlers. They aren't that desirable, so you'd probably be better off picking one of those up than paying for the trem and install on a guitar you already own.

 

[s2y]

I think the only system that doesn't need routing is the new Floyd for Gibsons.

Even this model had about a square inch routed underneath for the springs.

 

[rstites]

Is that a Floyd? It looks a hell of a lot like a Kahler from the top. If so, maybe that it was what the OP's thinking about.

 

[milli vanilli]

I had a kahler, really liked it. I wouldn't hesitate to have one put on that carvin...

 

[Whiskeyrebel]

I think the only system that doesn't need routing is the new Floyd for Gibsons.
.

Because his guitar is starting with a hardtail Strat type bridge rather than a TOM/stop tail, even the FRX would require drilling the body to install the bridge and TP bushings.

 

[Whiskeyrebel]

Is that a Floyd? It looks a hell of a lot like a Kahler from the top. If so, maybe that it was what the OP's thinking about.

I thought that was why he mentioned the routing underneath it - as a contrast to the Floyd.

 

[rstites]

I thought that was why he mentioned the routing underneath it - as a contrast to the Floyd.

I was just confused as he said it's a Floyd for the Gibson and it looks like a Kahler. It looks like it just says Gibson on it. I dunno. Maybe I'm just confused.

 

[Whiskeyrebel]

I was just confused as he said it's a Floyd for the Gibson and it looks like a Kahler. It looks like it just says Gibson on it. I dunno. Maybe I'm just confused.

There's no question that the picture shows a Kahler. If both halves of the comment were above the picture or it said "even this model of Kahler had about a square inch routed underneath for the springs" it would be a bit clearer I suppose.

 

[Rotten]

I loved a Kahler I had in my Gibson in the '80s and mid '90s. However, when I took it out and put in a stop tailpiece, the improvement in sound was remarkable.

 

[rstites]

The 80's Gibsons came stock with the lower end Kahler (might have been mid-tier). It could be upgraded for $50 which reportedly helped both the tone and the tuning stability. My first "real" guitar was an early 80's Explorer with a Kahler on it.

It was a huge step up on what I started with, but I never got along with that guitar too well.....I've never liked painted neck or the shorter scale length of Gibsons, so nothing to do with the Kahler.

 

[Harsh59]

Thanks everybody for the reply's .

 

[EADGBE]

Email Carvin and see if they would sell you one cheap. They probably know Gary Kahler.