Keeley Java Boost and Beano Boost...same things?

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  1. Jumblefingers

    Jumblefingers Supporting Member

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    I've tried a Retroman and Analogman Beano boost into my Blackstone OD and they did not sound too good...with a Tele it was too bright and thin. I was thinking of a pedal to kick up the Blackstone (which can take some pedals in front even in "bypass" mods like the Sun Face etc) as the BS can act a lot like a tube amp but was curious if the Java Boost is the same thing as a Beano?

    Asking as it has been described as a boost, treble boost, OD etc and it has a Tone control to tame the high end. Any info appreciated!
     
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    bump. I'm curious as well.
     
  3. Teahead

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    Essentially yes, they may use different transisitors to get there, but they are extremely close to one another in terms of sound. Beano is a little more raw and open, Java has a tone control, take your pick.
     
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    Absoulutely not! The java i find to be fatter (in the full range boost which is what i use), clearer, grittier, and punchier. The beano was way too loud for me, unity was at 9 o' clock, and at that level, you dont really get much dirt, just a slight fattening. As far as the beano's sound, it sounds more open texture wise, and i guess because it is brighter, it sounds more "lively".

    Obviously I prefer the java, but to each his own, both great pedals, i seem to prefer the oc44 trannies, also had a retro man beano, sounded very similar to java, but i liked the java's fatness and eqing more. I can understand if you played marshall type amps and had the luxury of cranking it how i might have enjoyed the beano more, but for fender amps the java gets my vote.
     
  5. Jumblefingers

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    It "appears" that the purpose it to accentuate the upper harmonics into a distored "darker" amp and to push it harder. This may be the "DUH" statment of the year. I am looking for something to push pedals into different territory as well as add more harmonic "dirt" but not a lot...guess I have to go try one to see. I'll take my Blackstone with me and see how it reacts I guess...
     
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    Good idea.

    The Bluesbreaksers, Queen, etc. tone so many people like was a treble boost (that these are all based on) into dark marshall amps, which the blackstone is supposed to reproduce.

    I really want to try that combo as well.

    I've played the Java Boost and some other treble booster into a JCM 800 that was for some reason a LOT brighter than I'd heard before (without them). The other one was alright. The Keeley was disappointing. I think I may just not like Keeley effects, despite wanting to, and I have no idea why.
     
  7. welcometoashley

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    they're both supposed to be clones, or at least a modern take, of the dallas rangemaster - so yes, they are the same type of pedal, but to my ears sound pretty different.

    i prefer the AM Beano Boost over the Java. I think the Java sounded excellent and was a bit more versatile with the tone control. however, i liked the Beano Boost better because with my rig, it cut through the mix better and had a lot more volume on tap. if you're finding the beano boost into the blackstone too bright then the java might work a little better.

    i found the java's tone to be pretty fat and "round" but again i liked the beano because it sounded a bit more raw and open....
     
  8. gtrshow

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    As usual, I totally agree with your take on the Beano vs. Java Boost. I liked the Retroman a lot, but the extra control of the JB wins out for me. The only caveat is that I seldom use the JB (in any mode) with my guitar volume wide open. I also mainly use it in Full Boost mode and treat it like a fuzz in terms of guitar volume control. That's where the real magic lies for me. YMMV.
     
  9. Jumblefingers

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    I too found the Beano's to get to loud too quick so there was no way to get any dirt without it getting WAY too loud. Again, I could see them working great with a neck humbucker into a non master gain amp and kicking up the harmonics to set some sweet sounds.

    Personally I am loking to see if it can do this at a slightly lower volume with not as much high end boost. Again, guess taking the little Blackstone (which is still my #1 pedal after all these years) to the store and giving it a whirl is the best way to find out.
     
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    I'm sorry, not sure I understand, were you going from the boost to the Blackstone or the other way around?
     
  11. Jumblefingers

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    Boost into blackstone...thanks.
     
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    You should check out the Divided by 13 version of the Rangemaster, the "Dyna-Ranger". It has a low cut rotary switch with 5 different settings, very useful. I compared it to the Keeley & thought it sounded much better.
     
  13. btmish

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    You may want to check out a Phoenix Ranger too, instead of different settings, like the 3 of the Java Boost, it has a sweep over the entire range.
     

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