The speaker thing I've learned to live with. For one, it's not nearly as bad with single coils as it is with humbuckers. BUT, I have found relief with the right EQ/boost pedals, or else cranking it (when no one else is home). With a Jazzmaster or Strat, it is awesome. Plus, playing in a small room and/or with the amp against a wall, the bass seems far more prominent than in a bigger venue. I used to think my TSA had decent bass response until I played it in a big room and it sounded pretty gutless. What I have noticed, and what I try to tame if I can, is the low-mids. It does not naturally have a crystal clear, scooped sound like a DRRI but you can get that sound with an EQ pedal pretty easily.Anyone? I’d like to know too. Especially interested to know if it also has the same abundance of bass. This is a great sounding amp for sure, but if I can’t find a speaker or other way to tame the bass I’m going to have to move it.
Nice! What made you go with the G12C? Any other change in tone besides making the EQ more effective? Have you had a chance to crank it?I finally resolved my bass issue. I’m using a JJ 5751 in V1 and replaced the Supro BD12 speaker with Warehouse G12C. Still have to turn the bass down and treble up a bit, but now EQ’s are effective. No need for outboard EQ’s and to me the amp sounds better. I as ready to sale, but am glad I kept it.
I had it available and remembered it had an extended high frequency range and a tighter bass than the BD 12 so decided to give it a go. And to my ears, this was the right speaker for this amp.Nice! What made you go with the G12C? Any other change in tone besides making the EQ more effective? Have you had a chance to crank it?
Did you played the amp in an open room before you swapped speakers? I went to jam with a friend last night and the bass became far more usable than it seemed against a wall in my little office. With my JM, I was turning the bass up to noon and it sounded fantastic. I'm still in love with this amp.I had it available and remembered it had an extended high frequency range and a tighter bass than the BD 12 so decided to give it a go. And to my ears, this was the right speaker for this amp.
I have cranked it and it breaks up a little earlier, even with the 5751. But, it’s more focused, tighter and more detailed to my ear. Turn the bass up and it’s still there, but all the way down the bass is totally controlled.
I live in the class A mode now and it sounds great. Before I primarily used the A/B. Before the swap I found The amp to be a little dark with excessive bass. These changes fixed that. Now my normal settings are bass 8-9 o’clock and treble at 1 o’clock.
YMMV, but works for me. And no outboard EQ’s = better tone IMO.
Awesome! I've been really curious to know what Filtertrons sound like with this amp. My next guitar will hopefully be a Tennessee Rose or some other Gretsch Pro.Got one of these for $719 at Sweetwater. What a club amp! I play only Gretsch guitars and it’s fantastic. It’s a little boomy like y’all said, but I’m the type to crank the treble and go have fun.
My issue is that it’s a Supro. It’s unfair for me to want it to act like a Deluxe Reverb or a Marshall. It’s it’s own bag.
You don't hear about the Forza a lot, but if anyone is sick of the TS-based 'super mids/low bass' thing, the Forza tends to overdrive without strange EQ bumps.I did it. I really did it. I found THE SOUND. The dirty low-mid gain rock and roll sound I've been chasing all this time. I got a Seymour Duncan Forza a little while back in a trade, and it pairs so bloody well with the Saturn. It clears up muddy PAFs, it's got a huge 37db boost range, and the overdrive...oh man. It can do the treble booster thing, and the more I crank the treble pot (2.1khz), the sweeter it sounds. Tonight, it was better than ever since I maxed out the treble and rolled off the bass to about 10 o'clock, mids about 11 o'clock. Sorta Led Zep, sorta Rolling Stones, 100% amazing. I've always liked how this amp and pedal sounds, but it scratched an itch I've had since I got back into guitar in a way nothing has ever since. I figured you folks get what I'm saying and know that feeling. Can't recommend the Forza enough if you're looking for a great clean boost to mid gain pedal for this amp. I still feel tingly...
Lol I knew you'd pop up sooner or later. I'm beginning to think we're the only two people who know how awesome that pedal is.You don't hear about the Forza a lot, but if anyone is sick of the TS-based 'super mids/low bass' thing, the Forza tends to overdrive without strange EQ bumps.